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#14391118
Independent_Srpska wrote:However, let me prove you insane again:
1) NATO started aggression on Serbia in March 1999

Serbia started aggression by marching their army into Kosovo.
2) These kids were murdered by your NATO people in April 1999...

Serbia as well as the Serbian army was lead by people who committed genocide and ethnic cleansing on a massive scale that reminded Europe of how the nazi's treated Jews.
3) "Mass-graves' you refer to - date no earlier than May 08, 1999, after NATO fueled the conflict

Mass-graves I referred to, like Srebrenica were made in 1995.... while the Greek flag flew over the houses of the victims.
#14391130
Maas wrote:Serbia started aggression by marching their army into Kosovo.


Get a grip on reality.

You are ridiculing yourself.

Kossovo was a Serbian province and the Serbian army & police were there by right. Not the same can be said for either the KLA terrorists which you support or NATO.

Maas wrote:Mass-graves I referred to, like Srebrenica were made in 1995.... while the Greek flag flew over the houses of the victims.


Little troll you are fooling yourself if you actually believe that you are going to scare me off with these ridiculous tactics.

Your pathetic government resigned for being responsible for numerous deaths in Bosnia, us Greeks on the contrary are being celebrated by all the former Yugoslavian people including the Muslim Bosniaks for all the relief and humanitarian help we provided them.

Not to mention the hoax of the alleged massacre that even the UN envoy pointed out to be a hoax:

Phillip Corwin, former UN Civilian Affairs Coordinator in Bosnia, advisor and contributor to the work of the Srebrenica Research Group[311] and contributor to the ISSA Special Report, stated "What happened in Srebrenica was not a single large massacre of Muslims by Serbs, but rather a series of very bloody attacks and counterattacks over a three-year period."[312][313]


And what is this here:

the Srebrenica massacre was the core issue of the landmark court case Bosnian genocide case at the International Court of Justice through which Bosnia and Herzegovina accused Serbia and Montenegro of genocide. The ICJ presented its judgement on 26 February 2007. It cleared Serbia of direct involvement in genocide during the Bosnian war[231]


Serbia cleared of the charge of genocide in the ICJ.
#14391405
Maas wrote:Serbia started aggression by marching their army into Kosovo.

Serbia as well as the Serbian army was lead by people who committed genocide and ethnic cleansing on a massive scale that reminded Europe of how the nazi's treated Jews.

Mass-graves I referred to, like Srebrenica were made in 1995.... while the Greek flag flew over the houses of the victims.


Really pathetic.

I have nothing to add Noemon's rebuttal of your lies.
I can only repeat the same which proves you simply first pathologically hate , and then you seek a justification for your hate by inventing parallel reality.
Your behavior is not quite rational.

- Yugoslav army and police were on Kosovo already for 80 years
- Even anti-Serb NATO court in the Hague had to accept the reality and ruled out any involvement of Serbia in the happenings not connected to Kosovo, whatsoever
- Srebrenica is in another administrative organization 500km, 4 years and one clearing verdict away from Kosovo - it's ridiculous trying to justify NATO/Albanians massacres of Serb civilians, kids, pregnant woman in Serbia by some events from the past.
To be more scary for your hate, there is a court verdict that ridicules your chauvinist mindset.
#14391671
Maas wrote:Serbia started aggression by marching their army into Kosovo.
noemon wrote:Kossovo was a Serbian province and the Serbian army & police were there

My reply was a response to that NATO started it, which was just incorrect. The aggression was started by the Serbian army shooting around in their newest ethnic war. The amount of Albanians who fled for their lifes says it all.

Maas wrote:Mass-graves I referred to, like Srebrenica were made in 1995.... while the Greek flag flew over the houses of the victims.
noemon wrote:Little troll you are fooling yourself if you actually believe that you are going to scare me off with these ridiculous tactics.
This was a response to "Mass-graves' you refer to - date no earlier than May 08, 1999", and that was just incorrect. And I corrected that.

Seems you are not able to follow this conversation Noemon, since your responing to a completely different context.
#14395123
15 years ago NATO-murderers set a milestone in warfare - a media house and media workers got marked a legitimate target in the NATO criminal aggression against a sovereign state.

15 years since NATO airstrikes against Radio Television Serbia
SOURCE: B92

BELGRADE -- On the night of April 23, 1999, at 02:06 CET, NATO carried out airstrikes against the building in downtown Belgrade housing Serbia's public broadcaster RTS.


16 workers were killed in the attack. 15 years later, there is no answer to the question why.

The victims were makeup artist Jelica Munitlak (28), video mixer Ksenija Banković (28), tehcnicians Darko Stiomenovski (26), Nebojša Stojanović (27) and Branislav Jovanovic (50), security guards Dragorad Dragojević (27), Dejan Marković ( 39) and Milan Joksimović (47).

Among those killed were also electrician Dragan Tasić (31), cameraman Aleksandar Deletić (31), technicians Slaviša Stevanović (32) and Ivan Stukalo (34), program designer Siniša Medić (32), mechanic Milan Jankovic (59), television director Tomislav Mitrović (61) and assembler Slobodan Jontić (54).

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The Association of Journalists of Serbia (UNS) stated on the anniversary that "the whole investigation of this war crime has not been carried out yet." It warned that the 1999 attack established the practice of using military force against the media in international conflicts, despite the fact that they are civilian objects and should not be considered a military target.

The statement stressed that all major global human rights organizations condemned the killing of civilians, while Amnesty International said it considered the deliberate attack on the RTS building as a civilian structure and the killing of 16 media workers a war crime.

The association called on the Ministry of Defense and Military Security Agency to make available to the Commission for Investigation of Murders of Journalists all relevant facts to determine those responsible for this serious crime.

Human Rights Watch in 2000 said that there was no justification for the bombing of the television outlet.

The UNS also recalls that the European Federation of Journalists (EFJ) in 2011 invited its members to join April 23 as day of remembrance of the 16 RTS employees killed in the NATO bombing.

NATO leaders have argued that the attack was "justified" by presenting contradictory explanations. A special commission of the Hague Tribunal, which investigated the case, did not propose to the prosecution to initiate criminal proceedings.

Former director of RTS, Dragoljub Milanović, was put on trial and in 2002 sentenced to ten years in prison on the grounds that he did not comply with an order of the then federal government to evacuate people and equipment from Aberdareva and Hilandarska streets.

UNS also stated that it supports and appreciates the current work of the Commission and "expects that it will play a key role in solving all the circumstances of the murder of 16 media workers."

The Commission was established to determine the truth about the murders of journalists Dada Vujasinovićc, Slavko Ćuruvija, and Milan Pantić, but has since expanded its mandate to the RTS case.

Commission President Veran Matić said that this body had new information about the killing of RTS employees during the bombing in 1999, but that in the interest of the investigation he could not reveal this information.

Matić said that the case was quite complicated, as a court process has already been done which ruled against Milanović, but added that there was an open possibility for "a much broader line of responsibility."

He added that the Commission determines guilt on several levels. The first should investigate how it was possible that the building was not evacuated properly and to determine the responsibility in the chain of command.

The second level concerns "international responsibility" - that is, accountability of those who first made the decision to bomb a media house and cause the death of 16 people.

He added that prejudices were created wrongly that further investigating will try to "amnesty" those who directly carried out the airstrikes, but added a part of the investigation was focused on them and that the Commission wants to establish who was responsible in this case.

In memory of those who died in the night of April 23, 1999, a memorial with the inscription "Why?" was placed in Tašmajdan Park by the victims' family and friends.
#14395232
Independent_Srpska wrote:15 years ago NATO-murderers set a milestone in warfare - a media house and media workers got marked a legitimate target in the NATO criminal aggression against a sovereign state.


That is just the US acting like a terrorist state.
They bomb Al Jazeera all the time. Nothing new, no milestone.
#14917949
Rejn wrote:
Wait a minute. Kosovo is Serbia, but Crimea is not Ukraine?
Double standards

noemon wrote:And what did Serbs ever do to Croats to warrant the loss of their constitutional rights within Croatia. What did Serbs did to Croats when the Croats removed the constitutional rights of Serbs within Croatia?


No. Croats did not abolish Serbian constitutional rights in the new Croatian state. New country = new constitution. In the 1991 Constitution of the Republic of Croatia, Serbs are one of the national minorities.

Far-Right Sage wrote: How was this a justification for secession in Croatia, Slovenia, or Bosnia, and how does it justify the suppression of Serbian autonomy in Croatia and in Bosnia-Herzegovina by an Islamic fundamentalist?


There is no need for justification for such a thing.Croatia and Slovenia performed the secession legitimately and in accordance with the then Yugoslav constitution.

The suppression of Serbian autonomy didn't exist. Franjo Tudjman (the then Croatian president) offered to the Serbian minority of Croatia the cultural autonomy. But Serbian minority has rejected the cultural autonomy.
#14918053
Ghinci wrote:No. Croats did not abolish Serbian constitutional rights in the new Croatian state. New country = new constitution. In the 1991 Constitution of the Republic of Croatia, Serbs are one of the national minorities.


'National minority' is not the same as 'Constituent nation'.

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