[Kaiserschmarrn]

Because it's plain obvious for anyone with half a brain that these protests were about Albanian influence in F.Y.R. Macedonian politics. That's why they happened at that point of time in that place. The whole Soros thing was a side show at best and nobody would have turned up for that.

And the Spectator chose to concentrate on the Soros/foreign influence part of the protests. It's a pretty common thing in journalism, especially in magazines. Again, this isn't a news article.

[noir]

What a blood freezing scream.

[Elyzabeth]

The attack on the woman was horrible !

And, unfortunately predictable...

These people have not been properly vetted

OR this would not have happened!

[Private Hudson]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/765919/Angela-Merkel-Germany-European-Migrant-Crisis-12-million/amp


Now just days after the Bundestag voted to speed up deportation and mandatory finger printing, it’s emerged they have outlined the country needs 300,000 people a YEAR for the next 40 years to stop population decline.

A leaked report from Mrs Merkel’s government said Germany would need to take in 12m migrants over the next four decades to keep Germany’s population size stable

This is completely insane! I'm living in germany and this discussion is insane. Why would germany need a constant population? 80 million. Is this a physical constant?

No! We dont need immigration. And for sure, we dont need immigration into our social system. We dont need immigrants with no educational background. This people are mainly muslims, incompatible with the christian culture.

They will just cost a lot of money and germany will not benefit at all. Apart from that, they will transform the openminded european culture into some society from the third world.

There is a quote from Peter Scholl-Latour, a german professor, journalist and author. He traveled around the world and knew it better than most of the people will ever know.

If you take half of Kolkata, you will not save Kolkata, you will become Kolkata.

[Elyzabeth]

I agree, it is completely insane !

[noir]

German Drang nach Osten always haunted the west.

[Private Hudson]

I agree, it is completely insane !

Dont get me wrong. Immigration is not a bad thing, if you get control of it.

There are a lot of countries with immigration laws. Canada or australia. This countries have rules for immigration and they invite people, who are helpful for their economies.

But germany is beside sweden the first country without any immigration laws and now without any borders either. A lot of people are not refugees, they are immigrants searching for a better life and money.

About 50 billion euros! This were just the costs in the last year for the immigrants. And later they will get paid pensions, when they are old.

This is insane!

Unfortunately the german media is completely left and they try to manipulate the german people. All parties in the german parlament share the same ideology.

[MememyselfandIJK]

Unfortunately the german media is completely left and they try to manipulate the german people. All parties in the german parlament share the same ideology.

Really? I find most western media to be pretty right-wing.

[noir]

@The Sabbaticus what's wrong with the Dutch?

[noir]

The German elite is very pro Islam. Always been

German Finance Minister Responds to Manchester Attack: Christians Can Learn from Muslim Migrants

The country’s rapidly growing Muslim demographic presents an “opportunity” for “Christians, and all who live in Germany”, Schäuble stated, adding: “We can learn from them.

“Many human values are very strongly realised in Islam. Think of hospitality, and other things like, what is there… And also tolerance, I believe, for example.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05 ... er-attack/


Life for ordinary people

[Albert]

[noir]

Man shot in Brussels rail station amid bomb belt claims

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40349654

[Albert]

Just another day in wonderful diverse rainbow society.

[Albert]

Europeans are realizing that their immigration policy is unsustainable.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448997/europe-immigration-changing-attitudes

[Albert]

Meanwhile in Sweden.

Sweden's Bråvalla music festival cancelled next year after sex attacks

Also a good read
http://www.globalresearch.ca/europes-refugee-crisis-is-now-destroying-sweden/5597450

[noir]

@PEM what is your view on the "refugees" influx from Africa?

[PEM]

Check out our article on the subject: http://www.ourcontinent.eu/2017/07/02/migrants-much-needed-solution

[Kaiserschmarrn]

Refugees frustrated and trapped in chilly Baltic states




Many refugees relocated to the small Baltic states by the EU face alienation and poverty and end up moving elsewhere in Europe. It is a headache for the EU, already embroiled in a bitter dispute with Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary over their refusal to accept refugees. Mekharena, an Eritrean, came to Latvia from Italy a year ago. Reaching Europe was an odyssey - he came via Uganda, Ethiopia, Israel and Egypt.

'They don't give us anything'

He only learnt he was going to Latvia a day before his flight. He was not allowed to choose the destination himself, and was not happy about it. "There are lots of Eritreans everywhere in Europe. They talk to one another. We all know that in Germany they give you an apartment and €400 (£350; $450) pocket money. But in Latvia they don't give us anything - just €139 a month," he told BBC Russian.



In Riga it is hard to find a one-room flat to rent for that money. But there are no plans to increase benefits. "Those are our allowances and we can't afford to pay people more - we aren't that kind of country," said Ainars Latkovskis, head of the Parliamentary Commission for Internal Affairs. "They can of course look for work. But by Latvian law you have to speak the language to get a proper job and it usually takes years to learn," he said. Mekharena says it is the low living standard that makes refugees leave Latvia as soon as they get their papers. He knows many asylum seekers who have done exactly that. "Most of them couldn't survive here. They can't accept the difference [between incomes in Latvia and Germany]. Lots of them borrowed money to get to Europe and they need to pay it back," said Mekharena. He himself paid people smugglers $3,000.

An EU solidarity plan, agreed in 2015, envisaged relocating 160,000 Syrian and Eritrean refugees throughout the EU, from overcrowded camps in Greece and Italy. Only a fraction have left the camps so far. Politicians here shrug off the onward migration of refugees from Latvia. "We live in a free country, not in Russia. The problem is the war and the terrible situation in Syria. That needs to be resolved," Mr Latkovskis said. Refugees are moving on from all three Baltic states - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Of 349 asylum seekers taken in by Lithuania, 248 left as soon as they had received official refugee status, according to Robertas Mikulenas, director of a reception centre in Rukla, a small Lithuanian town. Benefits for refugees in Lithuania vary from €102 to €204 a month.


Image caption Low-paid physical work is what many refugees end up doing in Europe, like these in Germany

So far 317 refugees allocated to Latvia have arrived in the country, but no office has records of their whereabouts. The fact that none are using the mentoring services available to those with official refugee status suggests they have left. In Estonia the situation is similar: of the 136 who arrived on the EU programme, 79 have moved elsewhere in Europe. Refugees in Estonia receive €130 a month. Once granted asylum, a refugee can travel freely within the EU and join friends and family in Western Europe - and the Baltic countries have fulfilled their obligations under the EU quota scheme.

Plan to relocate 160,000 refugees (EU data, 29 June 2017)
Number accepted so far Total commitment
Belgium 745 3,812
Estonia 136 329
Finland 1,739 2,078
France 3,779 19,714
Germany 6,400 27,536
Ireland 459 600
Latvia 317 481
Lithuania 324 671
Netherlands 2,056 5,947

Note: The 160,000 are refugees from Syria and Eritrea. Several countries, including the UK, Denmark and Hungary, are not participating. Not all participating countries are shown.

Nationalist backlash

Many in the Baltics, especially nationalists, support the refusal of Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary to house refugees. Twenty-three Latvian MPs signed a letter urging the European Commission not to impose sanctions on the three refusenik countries. One signatory, Karlis Kreslins of the right-wing National Alliance, was dismissive of Latvia's refugees. "They don't stay long in Latvia, almost all of them left. That means they were just looking for a better life," he said.


Image caption Eritreans are among the largest groups in Italy's overcrowded refugee camps

Mekharena has been in Latvia for almost a year. Friends are still helping him to pay the rent and now he hopes to find a job. "I have a higher degree in engineering, but I'll be doing manual labour on a building site. I hope it will work out," he says. He would like to join his family in London, but is in no rush to go as he does not think he will be able to find a job legally outside Latvia. "If I move to another country, they won't accept me. I know several people who left Latvia. They all went to Germany but none of them can work there," says Mekharena. Refugee status in Latvia only gives you the right to claim benefits or work in Latvia. It does not guarantee anything in other EU countries. According to Mekharena, the refugees who leave Latvia "wait for half a year to submit their applications again, but they are dependent on their friends for help - it's just a waste of time". So they come back to the same problems they left behind: meagre benefits, they do not speak the language and they struggle to find a job and a place to live.

A note on terminology: The BBC uses the term migrant to refer to all people on the move who have yet to complete the legal process of claiming asylum. This group includes people fleeing war-torn countries such as Syria, who are likely to be granted refugee status, as well as people who are seeking jobs and better lives, who governments are likely to rule are economic migrants.

[Hong Wu]

ISIS lost its last city, so the "refugees" will stop now, said no one.

[Elyzabeth]

Really? I find most western media to be pretty right-wing.

Really ? What planet are you living on?

The media has been left wing for many years now.