Blair won 3 consecutive elections, Corbyn lost an 80 year-long-held seat in Copeland. It's time to wake up, smell the coffee and stop blaming everything to conspiracy theory. The gap with the Tories is in the double digits and ever growing.
It's not a conspiracy is it? When academic studies show that Corbyns views have been misrepresented in the media. Even a BBC study admitted fabricating things he has said.
You can and should pin this on Corbyn as well as pin his utter lack of opposition to Brexit.
Copeland voted overwhelmingly to leave, 62%, Stoke, 70%.
The figure that 2/3 of Labour areas voted for Brexit is nonsensical and irrelevant, about 80% of English areas voted for Brexit that is 2/3 for everybody not just Labour, it does not mean that half of the population should be thrown under the bus because of a non-legally binding result based on luck that many progressive people did not turn up because they thought it was in the bag and shameless propaganda.
Nonsense. You cant just say it was a "non-legally binding" result after the fact. Not when the referendum was, as per the Prime Ministers words, sold to the people as an in/out referendum, and that whatever the result, it would be final. Brexit is happening, and the sooner you accept that, the better. If you want to complain about the propaganda that was ran prior to the vote, I agree it was full of it. However, we would also be arguing about overturning results of past general elections, as they're also full of propaganda.
If there is a repeat, there is no chance Brexit will win again, which means that there is actually a majority of people that are currently not being represented in politics.
That's irrelevant, and I'm not even sure its true. Brexit will happen, accept it.
In terms of party politics, every party relies on its core voters and then the swing voters, Labour will never convince the swing Brexiteer that it will do a better Brexit than the Tories and the core Labour voter even if he voted Brexit will still vote for Labour, while the Tory & Lib-Dem Remainers are there for the taking.
This is what will happen in that scenario. Lets say Labour opposed the result of the referendum and requested another one. Called for another referendum or a general election. Labour wins the remain Tory & Lib Dems and wins the battle over Brexit. At the following election, those swing Tory and Lib Dems go back to their parties, Labour loses the north permanently and returns to parliament with 50 seats, mainly in London. Scotland gone, the North gone, it will then be called the London Labour Party.
It is evidently clear that Corbyn will not just never win an election but that he will cripple Labour, this is a reality and the steps from this point forward become self-evident.
Labour would not win an election under Corbyn or any Blairite the right could muster. They had their chance, twice and the second time only had Owen Smith and Angela Eagle to step up. You think that this is about winning the next election? No mate, it's about making sure that the Labour Party returns to its roots and actually starts representing working people in this country. Someone like Corbyn never had a chance to win any election, given the reaction in the media and his own party to his selection. However, it's what will happen after Corbyn.