The_Brezhnevist wrote:In recent years, mostly because of the Kiev Maidan and radical nationalism that began In Ukraine and the following Donbass war, many Ukrainians claim that their culture is far more different than the "Moscovy" one and yet if we look on the shared history of those both cultures and shared similarity of their way of life , we see that they aren't different at all. I think that the radical nationalism that rised in Ukraine has no foundation in its claims of difference from thier russian neighbours and historical and ethnic "brothers", do you here agree or maybe you think that the two cultures indeed are different and the radical nationalism in Ukraine has a foundation in ukranian culture?
"Ukraine" (Украина, Окраина, Краина) just means "Province" in all Slavic languages, and most Ukrainian nationalists are not happy with this name of their country. The Ukrainian Nationalists claim that they are the real Russians, that Russia started with the Kievan Rus.
But these ancient Russians were Orthodox Christians, and the most ardent modern Ukrainian Nationalists are Catholics.
So you have to look into the history of Russia and their ruling dynasties. The ruling dynasties of Russian Tsars began with Rurik, who was a Scandinavian Viking.
The Vikings, originally resident in the Novgorod region (today the Russian Federation) created the Kievan Rus, after they defeated the Khazars, which were the ancestors of today Ashkenazi Jews, who de facto control the West.
But the ruling Viking elite eventually melted with the Slavic population of the region, their descendants became Slavs, because Rus became a Christian country, and the Greek monks Saints Cyril and Methodius created the old Russian alphabet (also called Cyrillic Alphabet), they translated the Bible into the old Slavic language, which is still used in the liturgy in Orthodox Churches in Russia and today Ukraine.
BTW, this old Slavic language was more similar to the today modern Russian, than to the Ukrainian language, which was heavily influenced by the Polish language.
In any case, there was no such thing, like the Ukrainian Nation before WWI, the region was called Russia Minor (Малая Россия), and Ukraine was just a tiny region of the Small Russia, and the population of this region identified itself as Russians or Small Russians (малороссы). The Russian Tsars were Tsars of ALL RUSSIANS, including Великороссы (today Russians), Малороссы (today Ukrainians), and Белороссы (today Belorussians).
To destroy the Russian Empire the Bolsheviks, who were neither Russians, nor Christians, and who were supported by the American banksters, needed the support of all kind of minorities. That was the reason why the Bolsheviks created the "Ukrainians", speak they supported crazy separatists.
After the Bolsheviks destroyed Russia, they did not need Ukrainian nationalism any more, this was a threat to their power, and that was the reason why the Ukrainian population was decimated via an artificial starvation, also called Holodomor.
If somebody believes that Ukrainians do not want to be Russians or hate the name "Russian", then he is a fool.
The conflict between today Russians and Ukrainians is about who are the real Russians. Ukrainians believe that they are the real Russians, and that today Russians had stolen this name. According to Ukrainian Nationalists today Russians are not pure Slavs, but Finno-Mongolian mongrels, who just learned the modern Russian language and converted to Christianity.
But how can you explain this basic thing about the Ukrainian-Russian conflict to Western imbeciles who were not able to find Ukraine on the map of Europe 10 years ago, and who still believe that Khrushchev was a Russian leader, because they cannot recognise a Ukrainian accent in the speeches of Nikita Khrushchev?
To make a judgement about the Ukrainian-Russian conflict you have to speak Russian and know the history of the Russian empire.
Look at this historical map with the names of all ethnic groups that lived in this Empire:
Can you see any Ukrainians on this map?
Ukraine was just a name of a province in Little Russia, like Podolia or Volinia, and the population of all provinces of Little Russia were called "Little Russians", you can see this in the map above. There was no such ethnic group, like Ukrainians, in the year 1796, and the Slavic peasants of Russian Empire spoke different Slavic dialects. In today Russia they also spoke many different dialects, the modern Russian language was created in Saint Petersburg, and was heavily influenced by the French and German languages, because the Russian aristocracy spoke these languages more often, than their native Russian dialects. They got their education in French or German, so they could not express themselves as well in their native language, and they had to invent new words.
Russian poets, like Pushkin (who was of mixed African-Germanic race, and his native language was de facto French) and Gogol (wo was born in Small Russia and his native dialect was a Small Russian dialect, similar to today Ukrainian) were the people wo created the modern Russian language. This language became the native language of all Slavs, that lived in today Russian Federation (Great Russia), but due to the backwardness of the Small Russian provinces, they did not manage to introduce this language on the territory of today Ukraine, and this was used by Bolsheviks, who declared that the dialects of Small Russian peasants is a separate language, though the Ukrainian dialect is more similar to modern Russian, than say the Bavarian dialect to the modern German.
Bavarians call themselves Germans, and Ukrainians call themselves Russians. But Bavarians do not want to create a separate state, the Ukrainians were persuaded by Bolsheviks that they are a separate people, and that is the root of the conflict.
BTW, the Cossacks were not Ukrainians, they were Orthodox Christians, and most of them spoke a language similar to the modern Russian language.
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