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Pants-of-dog wrote:I never agrued that there was no communist or socilaist violence, but that does not change the fact that capitalist violence is a real thing that also is a cause of migration.

Economic equality is not about democracy and equal rights as you seem to think. It is about economic opportunities and the vast difference in economic opportunities between the developing world and the developed world. This is why Angola does not have immigration issues.



I have already presented evidence showing that significant percentages of Muslims oppose making Sharia the kaw of the land.



Sure. This is off topic.


1. Economic equality has everything to do with equal rights and Democracy even if such democracy is reached through a semi theocratic regime. Please make a list of countries with decent economic equality without equal rights for women, doubt you find a single one. Actually equal civil rights for women is one of the bases of economic equality, seconded by children and elderly rights.

2. Angola doesn't have immigration issues for many reasons and none is connected to economic equality. Angola became a Russian-Brazilian territory , all the essential structure they have was build and given by Russians and Brazilians. I'm not talking about a few roads or building a hospital, I'm saying building the 2 largest hydroelectric powers in Angola, something around 300 million a pop. The reason why Angola explore their own oil and detain the dtechnology to extract-refine-distribute is because Brazil has a Petrobrás station in Angola, the technology and everything over there was created in Brazil. The big difference between the way China and Brazil-Russia invest is simple: Brazilians and Russians have geopolitical interest, don't mind letting locals get their coins, they have zero interest into moving to Africa, in this case, Angola. China is a new player in Africa and has completely different interests, there's billions of Chinese and only a few hundred millions of Russians and Brazilians, make the count. The immigration ban was a genius "strategy" from Brazil actually, Portugal imports Angolans as "refugees" or immigrants, depending on what EU is demanding, and avoid getting Muslims in their country. While Angolans get scholarship to study what interests Brazil and Russia, engineering or technical jobs that will allow them to operate oil stations and be independent. Brazil is building islands in Africa for a while. They created the army and Navy of Namibia, created a army and industrial factory in Kenya and surpassed UK and USA in number of embassies in Africa, is the second country with more embassies in Africa, the first being China.

3. I doubt you can show reliable evidence Muslims oppose Sharia law because the majority of Muslims doesn't oppose Sharia law. To understand if they oppose or not you need to know what Sharia Law is. Knowing what Sharia Law is will allow you to read the polls instead of just seeing what they want you to see. You can't ask a Muslim if he/she opposes or not Sharia Law. You need to ask if they believe a woman has the same rights of a men, if they think a women is equal by the eyes of the human law and God to a men, you need to ask what age is appropriate to get married, you need to ask if they want Hallal food to be official, you need to ask what they think about the contempt of Sharia
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Pants-of-dog wrote:Is that what you call people who are not racist enough to support you unthinkingly?


No, it is what I call people who are defeatist, as in your implied advice to the chinese to just surrender to mongolian genociders instead of building walls to keep them out.

Pants-of-dog wrote:Yes. Boohoo, those meanie Muslims have sure oppressed you.

Not myself personally, not yet, but they are oppressors, the worst oppressors actually and you love them for it.
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Politiks wrote:1. Economic equality has everything to do with equal rights and Democracy even if such democracy is reached through a semi theocratic regime. Please make a list of countries with decent economic equality without equal rights for women, doubt you find a single one. Actually equal civil rights for women is one of the bases of economic equality, seconded by children and elderly rights.


Well, since we will have international socialism throughout the western world by this point, we will finally be able to see if discrimination will wither away without capitalism.

But no, I am not discussing human rights so much as economic factors as a cause of migration.

2. Angola doesn't have immigration issues for many reasons and none is connected to economic equality. Angola became a Russian-Brazilian territory , all the essential structure they have was build and given by Russians and Brazilians. I'm not talking about a few roads or building a hospital, I'm saying building the 2 largest hydroelectric powers in Angola, something around 300 million a pop. The reason why Angola explore their own oil and detain the dtechnology to extract-refine-distribute is because Brazil has a Petrobrás station in Angola, the technology and everything over there was created in Brazil. The big difference between the way China and Brazil-Russia invest is simple: Brazilians and Russians have geopolitical interest, don't mind letting locals get their coins, they have zero interest into moving to Africa, in this case, Angola. China is a new player in Africa and has completely different interests, there's billions of Chinese and only a few hundred millions of Russians and Brazilians, make the count. The immigration ban was a genius "strategy" from Brazil actually, Portugal imports Angolans as "refugees" or immigrants, depending on what EU is demanding, and avoid getting Muslims in their country. While Angolans get scholarship to study what interests Brazil and Russia, engineering or technical jobs that will allow them to operate oil stations and be independent. Brazil is building islands in Africa for a while. They created the army and Navy of Namibia, created a army and industrial factory in Kenya and surpassed UK and USA in number of embassies in Africa, is the second country with more embassies in Africa, the first being China.


Okay.

I fail to see how this telates to a discussion on how to keep the Muslim population from getting to the point where conservatives feel threatened.

3. I doubt you can show reliable evidence Muslims oppose Sharia law because the majority of Muslims doesn't oppose Sharia law. To understand if they oppose or not you need to know what Sharia Law is. Knowing what Sharia Law is will allow you to read the polls instead of just seeing what they want you to see. You can't ask a Muslim if he/she opposes or not Sharia Law. You need to ask if they believe a woman has the same rights of a men, if they think a women is equal by the eyes of the human law and God to a men, you need to ask what age is appropriate to get married, you need to ask if they want Hallal food to be official, you need to ask what they think about the contempt of Sharia


I see. The surveyers are not sneaky and Islamophobic enough to ask the real questions.

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SolarCross wrote:No, it is what I call people who are defeatist, as in your implied advice to the chinese to just surrender to mongolian genociders instead of building walls to keep them out.


Yes, because calling me defeatist, and claiming I am advocating surrender to your imaginary Muslim army, and saying I spund like a retard are all examples of you following the argument.

Anyway, my point was that a militarised border is only as strong as those defending it, and even then, it depends on how bad people want to get in. The US/Mexican vorder is another example of a militarised border that is more or less useless at keeping out determined migrants.

Not myself personally, not yet, but they are oppressors, the worst oppressors actually and you love them for it.


It is hilarious to see you whine sbout oppression while advocating oppression of Muslims.
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Pants-of-dog wrote:Anyway, my point was that a militarised border is only as strong as those defending it, and even then, it depends on how bad people want to get in. The US/Mexican vorder is another example of a militarised border that is more or less useless at keeping out determined migrants.


The US border isn't that well policed and it is certainly not militarised. If the US authorities had the intestinal fortitude they could make illegal border crossing basically a suicide mission. Life loving mexicans would soon give up on it then. I am not saying they should do that but the fact remains that the mexicans come because the odds are very good they will make it across alive, because it actually isn't a militarised border. If you want an example of an actual militarised border check out lovely North Korea... come to think of the USSR had a few too. They worked pretty well at keeping people from escaping socialism.
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SolarCross wrote:The US border isn't that well policed and it is certainly not militarised. If the US authorities had the intestinal fortitude they could make illegal border crossing basically a suicide mission. Life loving mexicans would soon give up on it then. I am not saying they should do that but the fact remains that the mexicans come because the odds are very good they will make it across alive, because it actually isn't a militarised border. If you want an example of an actual militarised border check out lovely North Korea... come to think of the USSR had a few too. They worked pretty well at keeping people from escaping socialism.


Not really, no. Look, this seems like a fantasy you concocted in order to muse about killing Muslims. You just want everyone to come into this thread and plan put your death camps for Muslims with you. No thanks.

Do you think Muslims want to migrate?
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Pants-of-dog wrote:Well, since we will have international socialism throughout the western world by this point, we will finally be able to see if discrimination will wither away without capitalism.

But no, I am not discussing human rights so much as economic factors as a cause of migration.
Apparently you can't discuss anything in a deeper manner, you throw some random ideas and hope no one contest them. Human Rights have eevrything to do with migration.

Libya = No civil rights - war - migration
Nigeria = The Islamic North keeps fighting the productive South which generates migration. Lack of civil rights for women as Islam thinks is normal kidnap girls to sell as sex slaves
Mali - No human rights at all - massive migration - Islamic country - Just last month was discovered 2 ports selling slaves in plain
day light
Syria - Massive migration because ISIS, aka the people who do exactly what Mohammed did, generates a State where civil and human rights are irrelevant. Massive migration of oppressed minorities like Christians and Yazidi.

Pants-of-dog wrote:Okay.

I fail to see how this telates to a discussion on how to keep the Muslim population from getting to the point where conservatives feel threatened.

I was explaining why Angola doesn't have a migration problem and why Angola doesn't have a Muslim problem.

Pants-of-dog wrote:I see. The surveyers are not sneaky and Islamophobic enough to ask the real questions.

That's the type of answer a person with no arguments and a agenda he can't sustain gives. Real, logical, pertinent and rational questions should be asked. You need a dictionary to discover the meaning of Phobia because I believe you're using Islamophobia in every given opportunity and in none of those opportunities the issue is phobia.
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