[Pants-of-dog]

Yes, guys. It is all a big conspiracy By Swedish elites to give up their power and hand it to an impoverished and small group of immigrants because something something feelings.

[noir]

There is no other way to read it

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[noir]

It’s 30’s all over again. The racist and fascist Antifa vs. the Identitarian.

[Reichstraten]

@noir
You present yourself somewhat as an observing outsider, but do you actually support these identitarians or not?

[ingliz]

an observing outsider

Neo-Nazis are not observing outsiders. The goal of the Identitarians is to make racism modern and fashionable.

[Reichstraten]

@ingliz
I don't need your opinion, but that of noir. Thank you.

[noir]

@ingliz note is important, it shows how EU media and education sytem succeeded in reverting the history. Until the late 60’s only the Neo Nazis and Old Nazis supported the Arab cause. The EEC (led by Franco German leadership) policy revived these latent networks. Ever since, the EU nations’ media and educational systems have been indoctrinating and conditioning Europeans to accept the new sociopolitical directives.

Using modern propaganda technics they changed the narrative, making the Muslim who were staunch Nazi allies during the war, as victims of “racism” and “fascism”. While in reality, an EU report, which was immediately shelved, precisely because it implicated Arab Muslim and pro-Palestinian Leftist (like Antifa) in the anti Jewish racism wave.

About the Identerirdan movement, of course they are xenophobic but it’s inventible. The domineering attitude of Third World settlers provoke racist reactions.

[ingliz]

@noir

Neo-Nazis being very stupid are also very confused. Some have shown an interest in Islam, especially Shi'a Islam, as an anti-Semitic vehicle. Others see Muslims as just another non-white threat, as evidenced by Wade Michael Page, a neo-Nazi who shot up a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, having mistaken it for a mosque.

[noir]

The fascism and racism is inherited in the choice to support the Muslim cause. The Antifa activists are probably brainwashed by the media, school and academy but it doesn’t remove their responsibility.

[foxdemon]

http://thesoufancenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Beyond-the-Caliphate-Foreign-Fighters-and-the-Threat-of-Returnees-TSC-Report-October-2017.pdf


A paper on the subject of ISIS returnees. It is remarkable that such a large number came from France.

[noir]

Many of them converts. People can’t live withouth faith. Once the war in Syria will died down and reletive stability will return to migrants communities in Europe, there will be more converts. Europe has no ability to divert this course of history.

[Pants-of-dog]

@ingliz
I don't need your opinion, but that of noir. Thank you.

Considering the fact that @noir always uncritically parrots whatever anti-Muslim tweet, opinion piece, and rant, it seems safe to say that noir uncritically supports them.

[noir]

Islam will prevail. Is it anti Islamic to say?

[Pants-of-dog]

That would depend on context.

If we were, for example, discussing whether or not Islam would conquer Europe, and such a conquest would support a program to kill or ethnically cleanse all muslims on the continent, it could well be Islamophobic.

And that is the discussion as framed by @SolarCross.

[SolarCross]

That would depend on context.

If we were, for example, discussing whether or not

Do you mean by that that you think it is okay for muslims to say that but not a non-muslim?

[Pants-of-dog]

The question of whether or not that phrase would be Islamophobic if coming out of a Muslim’s mouth is not relevant to the discussion about @noir and his or her probable bias.

[SolarCross]

The question of whether or not that phrase would be Islamophobic if coming out of a Muslim’s mouth is not relevant to the discussion about @noir and his or her probable bias.

Do you think the kafir are not worthy enough to repeat what the ummah say? Is it allowable for a dhimmi to do that? Or should they say nothing but keep downcast eyes to show they know their place?

[noir]

The rise of Islamic terrorism, made Europeans aware about the true nature of Muslims immigrants, but it won’t change the course of history. With the war dying down, there will be more conversions, more subjugation, more PC. Europe can’t offer anything to people who look for absolutes. The Christianization of Europe followed the same pattern. At that time it was seen no less bizarre implementation. A Jewish sect around a martyr exacuted by the Romans become state religion in the very same Rome.

Anti-immigration parties are on the rise in Europe, for example in Austria (FPÖ) and in Germany (AfD), is Europe finally waking up?

The rise of Islamic State (IS) and the terrorists attacks of Al Qaida and IS made people more aware about the true nature of Islam. They are aware that we are not only at war with terrorism or violence but that we are at war with Islam as such. Although the mass media and the mainstream politicians want to reassure the people, to make them believe that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, people are well aware that Islam is the most important threat for our children and grandchildren. Parties like FPÖ with H.C. Strache in Austria, PVV with Geert Wilders in Holland and Front National with Marine Le Pen in France are in fact resistance movements which create hope. We are the trade unions of the silent majority, because we are defending our way of life against Islamisation. 

What is your final conclusion?

We should push back the Islam to the other side of the Mediterranean Sea. In Europe there is no place for Islam. Not yesterday, not today and not tomorrow. I don’t blame the Muslims. I blame our political correct politicians. They are responsible for the Islamisation of Europe. Multiculturalism and mass immigration are the levers of the Islamic colonisation. Those political parties who consider multiculturalism and diversity as a goal are doomed to loose the battle against Islamisation.

[Pants-of-dog]

Do you think the kafir are not worthy enough to repeat what the ummah say? Is it allowable for a dhimmi to do that? Or should they say nothing but keep downcast eyes to show they know their place?

This has nothing to do with my claim.

I see noir has provided yet more support for my claim.

[ingliz]

Islam will prevail.

In France:

Of European ethnic groups not indigenous to France, the most numerous are people of Italian family origin and it is estimated that about 5 million citizens (8% of the population) are at least partly of Italian origin if their parentage is retraced over three generations.

Cohen (1995)

According to Michel Tribalat, a researcher at INED, there were 3.5 million people of Maghrebi origin (with at least one grandparent from Algeria, Morocco or Tunisia) living in France in 2005 corresponding to 5.8% of the total French metropolitan population (60.7 million in 2005)

A slip of the tongue? You meant to say "Catholicism will prevail", No?