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Strange bedfellows or birds of a feather?

Ex-Israeli spymaster, who helped capture Adolf Eichmann, releases video in support of German far-right party

Rafi Eitan, a former Israeli minister and head of the Mossad operation that led to the capture of Nazi fugitive Adolf Eichmann, has filmed a message of support for the German far-right party Alternative for Germany (AfD).

The message, recorded in honor of International Holocaust Remembrance Day and posted to social media accounts by both AfD and Eitan himself, shows the Israeli offering greetings to the party's leadership and saying, “We all in Israel appreciate your attitude towards Judaism.”

“I’m sure that if you work wisely, strongly and, most important, realistically … that instead of ‘Alternative for Germany,’ you might become an alternative for all of Europe,” Eitan said.
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According to Israeli media reports, Eitan also wrote a message in German on his personal Facebook page that said “the Muslim world and its culture are very different from those of the West. Anywhere there are Muslims today, in any European country, one can expect violence and terror because of these differences.”

Israel's ambassador to Germany, Jeremy Issacharoff, wrote on Twitter that he rejected Eitan's remarks and accused the AfD of glorifying Nazi Germany's past. “It's sad and a shame,” Issacharoff said.

Founded in 2013, AfD has captured a wave of anti-immigrant sentiment to emerge as the third-strongest party in the German Parliament, called the Bundestag, last year with almost 13 percent of the vote.

In a country that has generally been keen to put its dark 20th-century history behind it, some members of the AfD have embraced it: One the party's founders has said that the country should be proud of its Nazi-era soldiers, while another member has called Berlin's Holocaust memorial a “monument of shame.”

In January, a German court ruled that one AfD politician could be called a Holocaust denier, a charge that the politician, Wolfgang Gedeon, has denied.

The party has generally focused much of its ire toward Muslim immigrants, and many of its elected members claim a strong affinity toward Israel: A poll from last September found that 90 percent of AfD Bundestag members supported a statement by Chancellor Angela Merkel that “Israel’s security is Germany’s raison d’etre.”

The 91-year-old Eitan has a legendary history in Israeli intelligence and played a key role in the capture of Eichmann, a major architect of the Holocaust, from Argentina in 1960. Eichmann was subsequently put on trial in Israel and executed.

Eitan later worked as an adviser on terrorism for the Israeli government and served as a Knesset member.

He has previously expressed similar support for Austria's Freedom Party, an anti-immigrant party founded by ex-Nazis. According to reports in the Austrian media, Eitan appeared at an event with Freedom Party leader Heinz-Christian Strache, whom he dubbed the “next president of Austria,” warning of the dangers of Islam.


I'm sure that Mossad must be aware of the fact that the AfD contains antisemitic elements:

Many in AfD 'have an anti-Semitic view of the world'

The AfD is not a genuinely anti-Semitic party. That would mean that the party is actually being held together by anti-Semitic sentiments, but this is not the case. However, many AfD members do share anti-Semitic ideas; they have an anti-Semitic view of the world, meaning that they believe that Jews are the masterminds of all evil. So, in that sense, anti-Semitism does play an essential role in the AfD.

What evidence of anti-Semitism have you found within the AfD?

You can always find clearly anti-Semitic remarks made by AfD members on the internet - for example, on Facebook. A former member of the AfD executive in the Weserbergland region, Gunnar Baumgart, once wrote in an article that that Zyklon B was used to protect lives and that not a single Jew was killed by it.

Dirk Hoffmann, a party executive in Saxony-Anhalt, criticized Israeli activities in the Palestinian territories by saying that they are the equivalent of the Holocaust. At the moment, it is also popular within the AfD to blame Jews, in general or as individuals, for migration to Europe - i.e., the refugees who come to Europe. It is said that this is a Jewish plan. Familiar anti-Semitic stereotypes can repeatedly be found within the AfD.
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Atlantis wrote:Strange bedfellows or birds of a feather?


Birds of a feather. You might like this podcast: Zionism and anti-Semitism: the sordid historical alliance

And currently, with all the alt-reichers supporting Israel, we have to accept that Israel is as nazi as they. Just look at the extreme-reichness of the current Israeli government. Birds of a feather is right.
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Atlantis wrote:Strange bedfellows or birds of a feather?

Ex-Israeli spymaster, who helped capture Adolf Eichmann, releases video in support of German far-right party



I'm sure that Mossad must be aware of the fact that the AfD contains antisemitic elements:

Many in AfD 'have an anti-Semitic view of the world'


Richard Spencer put it well when he said that he supported Israel because they both were like minded - they both wanted an ethnic Nationalist state - can't remember the exact words but that was it. To him Israel and them were birds of a feather for that reason and if the States does move in that direction they almost certainly would deport all their Jews to Israel - same with European countries. This also suits Israel who wants all the Jews of the world there. Hence if you watch now you will find all those in the US and Europe moving to the far right support Israel despite many of them being antisemetic.

We have seen this with Israel supporting Hungary despite the calls from Hungarian Jews about the increasing antisemitism. We can see this in Israel ignoring antisemitism emanating from the US. Israelis were told after Charlottesville to ignore the antisemitism there. There were more important things which needed to be worked for.

So yes, they are both on the same page and Israel puts a far higher value on gaining Greater Israel as an ethnic Nationalist state than she cares for Jews living outside Israel. Even if it got to programs I fear she would think it was worth it as long as most of them were being forcefully deported to Israel.
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I'm sure that Mossad must be aware of the fact that the AfD contains antisemitic elements:


The German left is as anti semitic and and far worse, more sophisticated one, because they recontextulize the Nazi Arab alliance in fashionable terms. The Left is a true inheritor of that alliance that's why it's taboo in Germany to mention it. The renewed alliance on the heart of Europe will danger the whole world once again. There is no way the combination of German nationalism (under various euphemism terms) and militarism with Islamic fanaticism will not shake the world. The German elites invited them to sustain its demographic decline because they know their can realy on them. True bed fellows.

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Recently, the district court in Munich recently sentenced a German journalist, Michael Stürzenberger, to six months in jail for posting on his Facebook page a historical photo of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, shaking the hand of a senior Nazi official in Berlin in 1941. The prosecution accused Stürzenberger of "inciting hatred towards Islam" and "denigrating Islam" by publishing the photograph. The court found Stürzenberger guilty of "disseminating the propaganda of anti-constitutional organizations". While the mutual admiration that once existed between al-Husseini and German Nazis is an undisputed historical fact, now evidently history is being rewritten by German courts. Stürzenberger has appealed the verdict.
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noir wrote:The German left is as anti semitic and and far worse, more sophisticated one,


there is zero evidence for this. There is a rise in the far right in Germany and along with that an increase in antisemitism which comes not from the left and not from Muslims which some like to agitate but to the German far right.

In 2017, German police registered a total of 1,453 cases in which Jews were targeted – and in 95 percent of cases, far-right right extremists were responsible.

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In 1,377 of the anti-Semitic crimes in 2017, police identified right-wing extremists as the perpetrators.

Another 33 incidents were attributed to foreign-born attackers, excluding Islamists, and 25 cases were deemed “religiously motivated,” meaning likely committed by Muslim extremists.

In 17 cases, the motivation could not be ascertained, and only once case – a charge of sedition – was linked to the far-left, the Tagesspiegel reported.


https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/internat ... any-report

So out of 1,453 cases, 1,377 are by the far right and only 1 by the far left. Not what you said at all.

noir wrote: because they recontextulize the Nazi Arab alliance in fashionable terms.


The case you put up was nothing to do with the German left unless you consider everyone in Germany except the Far Right to be 'the left'. Germany has very strong anti hate laws. People go to jail for holocaust denial. This man was not discussing ww2. He is an anti Islam activist and found himself facing German law as anyone else would. You can disagree with German Law but to then try and turn this into something belonging to the left lacks honesty and must have some other motivation.

http://powerbase.info/index.php/Michael ... rzenberger

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The Left is a true inheritor of that alliance that's why it's taboo in Germany to mention it.


There is a rise in German Nationalism particularly in the East but it is not from the left it is from the Far Right and it has no collaboration with Muslims rather it is anti Muslim wanting Germany just to have 'Pure blood Germans' to quote one on a forum.
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Recent "Far Left" demo in Berlin with Keffiyeh-clad Germans (a solidarity mark with the Palestinians) and their Arab and Muslims allies, calling out "racists" and "Nazis". This is the exact Nazi Muslim alliance in the 30's and 40's. Since the late 60's the ostensibly guilt ridden students who "wanted to break the silence of their parents" turned the Arabs to be victims of fascism and racism and not as par evellence fascist and racists as they were seen till then. The German patriots will not succeed without exposing the 68ers rewrited history

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alethea wrote:There is a rise in the far right in Germany and along with that an increase in antisemitism which comes not from the left and not from Muslims which some like to agitate but to the German far right.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Muslims as a bloc will agitate and attack the Jews in Europe and anywhere else. It is a tenant of Islam, they are ordered to do so by their Quran.
They might not do so in any significant way in Europe at the moment but that is because their numbers still have to grow (thank you Frau Merkel).

The only anti-Islam mass immigration voices I can see are from the far-right.
If that is what it takes, so be it, I support Orban et al.
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There is nothing more interesting than contemporary European history. You can say, the Germans are the last and final victims of antisemitism. Since the late 60's the German elites turned the history on its head, rehabilitating the moral legacy of the Nazis, both for commerical gains with the Arab world and its self image, lost by the "narratives" as they call the Holocaust. Until today.


But they are not giving up. Recent film on 1976's Entebbe raid, with Daniel Brühl as German terrorist on solidarity mission with the Palestinians are trying once again to rewrite history. Portraying the German "left wing" terrorists as freedom fighters as if Nazi (both SS and "Neo") fighters didn't fight and died on the same years on behalf of the same solidarity.

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Albert wrote:It is more complex then that. The Russian elite criticizes immigration policies of EU and USA, but yet themselves import migrants from central Asia and former Soviet Republics who are not ethnic Russians and are outside of European civilization historically. RT is basically pushes propaganda with aim to destabilize social cohesion in the west, further then already the migration in itself has done. Basically their exploiting weakness in the western liberal societies.


During the Cold War, the Soviet's Radio Moscow didn't succeed much, one of the reasons was the funny "British" accents of the presenters. It was alien and off putting. This time they learned the lesson. Propaganda? The BBC is also propaganda. It's a battle of narratives. Both of them have agenda, which led to effective propaganda.

RT latest reports, Merkel admits there are “No-Go Zones” in Germany.

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