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The Independent wrote:Jean-Claude Juncker marks Karl Marx's 200th birthday in the philosopher's hometown

Jon Stone Europe Correspondent | 13 hours ago

The president of the European Commission has defended Karl Marx’s record as a philosopher, arguing that he is not “responsible” for mistakes and atrocities committed in his name after his death.

In a speech in the German philosopher–economist’s hometown of Trier to mark his 200th birthday, Jean-Claude Juncker said that “Marx isn't responsible for all the atrocity his alleged heirs have to answer for”.

The theorist, whose work has been cited by political currents ranging from libertarian socialists to brutal authoritarian dictatorships, has loomed large over world politics as well as academia for around 150 years. He lived his last years exiled in London, where he authored the Communist Manifesto, his best-known work.

“Karl Marx was a philosopher, who thought into the future had creative aspirations, and today he stands for things, which is he not responsible for and which he didn't cause, because many of the things he wrote down were redrafted into the opposite,” Mr Juncker said in a speech at a church in Trier.

“One has to understand Karl Marx from the context of his time and not have prejudices based on the review, these judgements shouldn't exist. Karl Marx was lucky in life as he was born in Trier. He grew up in the city, actually the shortest period of his vita.”

Drawing on the philosopher’s legacy, Mr Juncker said the European Union’s instability could be addressed by focusing more on social welfare, which he said had been a neglected part of European integration so far.

“It will be a task of our time to create a lively reality out of the social rights we set up for Europe, for the ones who live today and often are sad or blackmailed by life and won't have enough social rights and the ones, who will be born tomorrow,” he said.

“The European Union is not a flawed, but an unstable construction. Unstable also because Europe's social dimension until today remains the poor relation of the European integration. We have to change this.”
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Mr Juncker's speech drew criticism from some anti-communist countries. Critics of Marx argue that the deaths and human rights abuses under by communist regimes should be attributed to his philosophy. His defenders say his work still has value and dispute the role of Marxism in wrongdoing.

So he celebrates Marx actually and draws a connection between him and the EU. :)
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Ter wrote:Do you really believe he writes his own speeches ?
He is just a useless figurehead, chosen because he is from a small country.
And he is indisputably a drunkard.

Do you think Soros appoints his speechwriters? I wonder if he has his own thoughts even or he's drunk them away completely to be a perfect Manchurian candidate. :lol:
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Heisenberg wrote:So now social liberals are claiming Marx was really one of them. I suppose claiming Jesus, Muhammad and Winston Churchill wasn't enough. :lol:

You lot have some balls to rewrite history so shamelessly, I'll give you that.

Oh really? :lol:

Would you try to post something relevant, please? Maybe I should have asked Ter too, but he's old enough to be hopeless I'm afraid.
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Like what? All hail the benevolent and wise Juncker?

You've made a whole thread about a speech where the EU president claims Marx's legacy. It's hardly major news, apart from being absurd. Juncker has apparently mistaken welfare for Communism in much the same way that Thatcherites do, but with a smile. Truly, they're two sides of the same coin.

Mocking the tendency for people of your ideological bent to claim practically every major historical figure as their own seems perfectly relevant to me. Who next, I wonder? Has Castro been properly rehabilitated in liberal eyes yet? Maybe we can expect a glowing appraisal of liberal heroes Chairman Mao and Deng Xiaoping next time there's some trade negotiation with China. :lol:
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It is obvious capitalists use the left to pursue goals against their own interests. The amount of self deception involved is truly astonishing. They are actually successfully using the opposition to accomplish their goals.
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Beren wrote:So he celebrates Marx actually and draws a connection between him and the EU. :)


Well, that's an improvement. The former Head of the Commission, Barroso, is known to have been a Maoist in his younger days.

PS: don't mind the Anglo Imperialists. They are beyond redemption.

Only 327 days left for Europe to be liberated from the Perfidious Albion.

I have already started hording Veuve Glicquo to celebrate the occasion in style. Maybe I should invite Juncker too. The church bells will ring across the continent - from Moscow to Lisbon. :lol:

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