[Godstud]

What happened to, "She's the savior of the people", during Brexit?

Tommy Robinson is a criminal. He deserves jail, and people who riot on his behalf deserve it, as well.

[Rich]

Just to clarify something:

Was Yaxley-Lennon saying these guys were guilty before the verdict was handed down?

Remember this the next time a leftie lectures you on how you must respect someone's choice of gender. If Tommy had chosen "Tammy" as his new name you can be damn sure that Pants-of-dog would have wanted to repsect his, sorry her choice.

[KS edit: take care when abbreviating other users' names.]

[noir]

So it looks like Theresa May and the conservatives are as bad as Labour or any other mainstream political party in Europe these days.

Traitors to their own people.

It's natural result of the demographic trend, the situation in the future will be far force. Of course the Islamic Lobby interest is to portray any attachment to national identity as "racism", this will block any attempt by local politician to serve the indigenous interests. From the other side, the German led EU has the same interest to weaken national identities. That makes sense if you want to reduce effective opposition to replace national governments with one country, one EU, under German leadership. It's a harebrained plan to remove any sense of nationality in the belief it will prevent wars between nation. Only those who thought it up never considered that the immigrants would refuse to integrate and thus engender fault lines within nations and that those fractures contain greater tensions than the inter-national ones.

They are working very smart.

[Albert]

It's natural result of the demographic trend, the situation in the future will be far force. Of course the Islamic Lobby interest is to portray any attachment to national identity as "racism", this will block any attempt by local politician to serve the indigenous interests. From the other side, the German led EU has the same interest to weaken national identities. That makes sense if you want to reduce effective opposition to replace national governments with one country, one EU, under German leadership. It's a harebrained plan to remove any sense of nationality in the belief it will prevent wars between nation. Only those who thought it up never considered that the immigrants would refuse to integrate and thus engender fault lines within nations and that those fractures contain greater tensions than the inter-national ones.

They are working very smart.

What is troubling me is the realization that the establishment will be using the power of the state to oppress; what it sees as rebellion towards its established progressing world order.

I think a lot of us were thinking before that perhaps we could convince the establishment to change course, reach a compromise. Let them realize what cruel existence they had established. The imprisonment of Robinson and now of Manafort in the states, signals that the establishment is not wiling to listen. This is something I was not prepared for to be honest.

I did not expect them to be so ignorant, to put it lightly. I believe this is more do to the flowery rhetoric of peace and love, that they preach, that got us all fooled. Which seems to be all cruel lies, they are nothing of it. It is betrayal that leaves me speechless, it is not even betrayal of their own people, it is betrayal of what is good and just in this world.

What I'm realizing now that this is going to be a long struggle against the establishment. Not a quick victory we were hoping to achieve because we thought, surely the "intellectual", "peace loving", humanitarians will listen. All nonsense, they are nothing of it.

[Pants-of-dog]

You know, in the #MeToo thread, many of the conservatives were lining up and denouncing the women who came forward with accusations of trying the defendants in the media spotlight, and a lack of presumption of innocence, and mob justice.

Now, Yaxley-Lennon is actually doing these things.

Please note that the #MeToo movement never actually tried to sway an ongoing trial with the media, as Yaxley-Lennon has.

Is there a good reason for the condemnation of the women in the #MeToo movement, but not of Yaxley-Lennon?

Please note that the religion and ethnicity of the defendants are not good reasons, nor is the fact that Yaxley-Lennon is a man.

[noir]

@Albert

It's reverse colonialism. They are doing what the Europeans did to Africa. They use brilliantly the human rights language and the postwar fear of "racism" to diasrm resistence and to nail Europe to their agenda.

When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.

Desmond Tutu

The quote has also been attributed to Jomo Kenyatta, former Prime Minister and then President of Kenya.

Slowly but surely, Europe has utopian "anti racism" and "human righs" and they have the land.

What makes the situation hapless is the indigenous collaboration which actively assisting them.

[noir]

THe demographic empowerment. They are working very clever and meticulously. Great attention to visibility. Visibility is everything.

[Decky]

So it looks like Theresa May and the conservatives are as bad as Labour or any other mainstream political party in Europe these days.

Traitors to their own people.

All right wingers are traitors, they are more loyal to money than they are to the country. Look at their love of privatisation, anything owned by the British people is sold off to foreign millionaires as quickly as possible under the Tories.

Patriotism exists only on the left.

[noir]

All right wingers are traitors, they are more loyal to money than they are to the country. Look at their love of privatisation, anything owned by the British people is sold off to foreign millionaires as quickly as possible under the Tories.

Patriotism exists only on the left.

You've been told numerous times, the Labour party is the Islamic party par excellence. You're serving foreign agenda.

[Albert]

Did you attend eid celebrations today Decky? With your Muslim friends.

[Godstud]

OMG they televise tons of people attending Ramadan.

You guys are Islamaphobes, racists and xenophobes of the worst kind.

Incidentally, they DO televise other celebrations. Every heard of Christmas?

@Albert Don't be jealous that Decky has friends, and you don't.

[noir]

Did you attend eid celebrations today Decky? With your Muslim friends.

He probably doesn't witness them, just as he doesn't witness that Corbyn is not James Callaghan

BTW, the attendance was doubled over 2015's 60,000.

Facts courtesy of the one and only The Guardian:

Celebrate Eid: 60,000 enjoy end of Ramadan at event in Birmingham

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... am-muslims

[Decky]

Might go to the pub with my dad for Eidmas drinks later.

[Albert]

Is your dad a Pakistani? Serious question.

@Godstud
I'm just asking Decky if he went to eid celebration that is all, how is this phobic whatever? He lives proudly in multicultural Birmingham.

[Pants-of-dog]

I guess you guys are all cool with Yaxley-Lennon attempting to use a media spotlight to thwart the presumption of innocence and institute mob justice.

[noir]

A Muslim activist who hit a police officer with his walking stick at a Tommy Robinson rally in Hyde Park has escaped with a suspended sentence.

[Decky]

No my dad is not a Pakistani. Although his mother was an immigrant from one of Britain's former colonies, so there you go Albert.

[Albert]

Where she from?

[Decky]

Since you asked so nicely.

Contae Chorcaí.

[Godstud]

A Muslim activist who hit a police officer with his walking stick at a Tommy Robinson rally in Hyde Park has escaped with a suspended sentence.

So what? If you knew a lick about the law, and it's quite obvious that you do not, then you'd know that most people get suspended sentences for their first criminal offense. Is such ignorance of law common-place where you live?