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You would have thought the people of Dresden would have learned to fear the British state by now. :roll: Maybe it is time the RAF paid them another visit.



#14919143
This is bullshit


Basically breaching the peace does not automatically lead to breaching of suspended sentence, breaching the peace is what Tommy had been originally charged with. Yet he went to jail not even for breaching of suspended sentence, but on a new charge of contempt of court. This is totally bullshit, the whole time between arrest and his prison sentence was within a span of 4 hours.

This is totally politically motivated. Even Putin does a better job of creating legal excuses to throw his political opponents in jail.

Wow rule of law and freedom of speech just went out of the window. Well not that this is the first time a western state has done it, but this time it is very well exposed what they have been doing for decades in regards to the rape gang cases and opposition the progressive nightmare.
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Albert wrote:This is totally bullshit, the whole time between arrest and his prison sentence was within a span of 4 hours.

This is totally politically motivated. Even Putin does a better job of creating legal excuses to throw his political opponents in jail.

Wow rule of law and freedom of speech just went out of the window. Well not that this is the first time a western state has done it, but this time it is very well exposed what they have been doing for decades in regards to the rape gang cases and opposition the progressive nightmare.

They've just thrown a big juicy bone to all the world's dictators. How can these people get on a moral high horse now and chastise the likes of Putin or Maduro? In the US, we have mass surveillance, the FBI lying to courts to get warrants and infiltrating political campaigns with spies. The UK charges people for making videos and imprisons people for live streaming outside a court house and blocks the press from reporting on it.

How is this different from what they claim Putin does? Why is it bad if Putin does it, but not bad if Teresa May does it?
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Have you read the spin in the papers today, the judge stated that Tommy reading the names of the defendants was contempt of court and risked the trial collapsing.

Tommy read the list in the livestream from a BBC article which was already out in the public domain. The list of defendants is publicly available on the court bloody website! If you search google for that particular case you will find pictures and details of the suspects already printed by nearly every national UK newspaper. So what did Tommy do exactly that nearly every other reporter has not already done?

You have to ask yourself the question - why would one reporter outside a court case reading a charge sheet already publicly available across a number of sources suddenly risk collapsing the case?

Every single other case across England is public and reported on. You will never hear a judge stating that by the newspapers reporting on it they are in some way prejudicing the case.

Look at the pictures below of Max Clifford and Rolf Harris fighting their way through hundreds of reporters going into court on their sex charges. None of those reporters were arrested and there were no judges commenting to the press that the case will collapse. This just highlights Tommy’s sham conviction.

The BBC even worked alongside the police to get a helicopter above Cliff Richards house when they went to arrest him, he had not even been charged at the time! No outcry from judges then though?

Do not be fooled by the corrupt ruling elite and instead ask yourself why are these type of cases shrouded in secrecy when no other cases across the UK are? The answer is simple, the establishment do not want the public to know the full extent and horror going on across this country facilitated by that very same establishment for decades due to a fear of being called racist.

Tommy is exposing areas that the state would rather were swept under the carpet and for that they are trying to have him silenced or preferably murdered in prison by Islamic gangs.

Have you ever heard of another case where someone was arrested, tried, sentenced and transferred to prison all within the space of 3 hours? No, because it has never happened before.

To top it all off they then tried to cover it up and impose state censorship report restrictions so that no one would know what they had done. This just made the story global with thousands protesting over the weekend. They were left with no other option but to lift the restriction as it had caused outrage.

People who swallow this crap that the ruling elites and media trot out need to wake up and smell the coffee. It is time to make a stand, it is time for revolution. Whitehall, London June 9th 3pm. #FreeTommy


Third 'Free Tommy Robinson' rally marches on 10 Downing St. Protesters had marched from Trafalgar Square, waving flags and chanting "shame on you."

#14919180
Good to see the protests. I really hope it brings down Teresa May's government. She's been terrible.
#14919182
Albert wrote:This is totally bullshit, the whole time between arrest and his prison sentence was within a span of 4 hours.

I'm glad there's still some sanity and competence left in Britain, not some Weimar bullshit. :up:
#14919202
snapdragon wrote:Probably a waste of time this

No 'probably' about it. As the blogger said, "Far-right sympathisers deliberately sowing discord and falsehoods, whose concern for due process is a cipher for hero-worship of a racist cult leader, are never going to be swayed by facts or rational argument."
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blackjack21 wrote:They've just thrown a big juicy bone to all the world's dictators. How can these people get on a moral high horse now and chastise the likes of Putin or Maduro? In the US, we have mass surveillance, the FBI lying to courts to get warrants and infiltrating political campaigns with spies. The UK charges people for making videos and imprisons people for live streaming outside a court house and blocks the press from reporting on it.

How is this different from what they claim Putin does? Why is it bad if Putin does it, but not bad if Teresa May does it?

He was arrested and imprisoned for contempt of court, because he deliberately broke reporting restrictions* imposed during an active trial to prevent the trial from being compromised. And, as our resident pretend legal expert, you should be well aware that contempt of court is dealt with by summary judgment, which means that the "four hours" between his arrest and conviction is hardly surprising, regardless of what some idiot YouTubers who know nothing at all about English law claim.

Furthermore, he admitted he knew that this was what he was doing in open court (again, not a "secret trial" - it was open to the public, and there were reporters there). He had even been specifically warned against doing it when he received a suspended sentence for doing exactly the same thing a year ago.

HHJ Norton, sentencing Robinson in 2017 for contempt of court wrote:You should be under no illusions that if you commit any further offence of any kind, and that would include, I would have thought, a further contempt of court by similar actions, then that sentence of three months would be activated, and that would be on top of anything else that you were given by any other court.

In short, Mr Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as “Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists” and so and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand?


To liken this in any way to the secret trials held in lawless dictatorships is infantile. But you probably know that, and I'm probably wasting my time pointing this out.

*The media were not "banned" from reporting on the trial - they were subject to a postponement order, which prevent media reports from being published until a verdict has been reached, to remove the danger of the press swaying the jury. This is long-established practice in British courts. By breaking the postponement order, Robinson made an acquittal/mistrial more likely. So not only was what he did illegal, it was completely counterproductive to his supposed "cause". Of course, this is hardly surprising given that football hooligans are not typically known for their legal nous.
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blackjack21 wrote:They've just thrown a big juicy bone to all the world's dictators. How can these people get on a moral high horse now and chastise the likes of Putin or Maduro? In the US, we have mass surveillance, the FBI lying to courts to get warrants and infiltrating political campaigns with spies. The UK charges people for making videos and imprisons people for live streaming outside a court house and blocks the press from reporting on it.

How is this different from what they claim Putin does? Why is it bad if Putin does it, but not bad if Teresa May does it?
Indeed, Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner, the west can not claim anymore that they have open and free society, rule of law, freedom of expression and so on. In fact Robinson case shows how there is a systemic oppression of political opposition, manipulation of democratic process and press.

There is also something not being spoken here, that these rape trials are happening in about 80 town and cities in UK. Not only the government did nothing about the ethnic rape gangs for years (in fear of "racism") to bring justice and these trials about, it also covered up gang rapes throughout the country for decades it now on top of that it is trying to cover up the trials. In any normal country this would have been a sensation and a political crisis if such willful treachery and betrayal of the government was exposed. This is precisely what the establishment is trying to avoid. Tommy knew this, that is why he risk his freedom and safety, persistently trying to report on this and expose the government's treachery. Now they threw him in prison and tried to cover that up as well.

I believe what has happened with Tommy is big, this will have significant political ramifications for the establishment. No matter what legal excuses they present for imprisoning Robinson, people who know better will not buy it. Also only opponents of what Tommy stands for will parrot the state's propaganda, they are themselves are no better than the government who's actions they defend.

He was not in contempt of court he was not even on court property. He only repeated the accused names and showed one or two of their faces on camera, asking if that was their jail bag. How is that swaying the jury? If the jury does not know the accused names and faces I think it might as well be a mistrial.

Also Robinson was arrested on charges of breaching the peace, tried for completely different charge of contempt of court, without his lawyer present and proper defense, he did plea guilty, but who knows what they might have done to try to make him plea guilty. Maybe they threatened his family with legal prosecution as well, so for the good of his family he had to do it. I do not know, but they did it to him before.

To a lot of sensible British people who did not know what was going on, Robinson's imprisonment will feel like waking up to a different country they did not realize they lived in all this time. But this political oppression does not only happen in Britain, it happens in Canada, Germany, Sweden probably in all western countries that are under this progressive tyrannical boot of the political establishment. It also happens in USA as you have mentioned, just there the principles of freedom of speech and expression have not been disregarded as much as in other couturiers. Although the political elite there too in principle have dabbled in political oppression as well.
#14919357
@Albert - literally everything you have written is factually wrong. Read the link in @snapdragon's post. It's written by a barrister, who knows how English law works and - perhaps more importantly - actually knows the facts of the case. There is a vast, gaping chasm of knowledge between him and a Canadian YouTuber who knows nothing about how the law works.
#14919427
Tommy Robinson is an Islamophobe and a shit disturber who incites people to violence. He'd be in jail eventually, given his demeanor and attitude. I have no pity for this asshole, and his jailing is not "political". That's melodramatic claptrap.
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Heisenberg wrote:@Albert - literally everything you have written is factually wrong. Read the link in @snapdragon's post. It's written by a barrister, who knows how English law works and - perhaps more importantly - actually knows the facts of the case. There is a vast, gaping chasm of knowledge between him and a Canadian YouTuber who knows nothing about how the law works.
You mean the article where the author labels Robinson's supporters as "knuckle-dragging cheerleaders".

#14919467
Ezra Levant? Wow. You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now, aren't you? Rebel media the one of the worst sources out there, for anything.
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