quetzlcoatl wrote:Well, assuming a Mach 27 missile can be deployed, rapid vector changes will be unnecessary. The US has no current or proposed defense against a hypersonic missile.
That's faster than a spacecraft re-entering the atmosphere from low Earth orbit. It would probably just blow up from the friction alone. That's why this type of propaganda is just stupid, and makes me wonder why they even bother with this kind of bullshit. The US already demonstrated it could shoot down satellites with SM-2 missiles on Ticonderoga-class ships using the Aegis defense system back in 2008. Shooting a missile would be about the same degree of precision. For a time, I believe adding those capabilities for general defense would have been a ABM treaty violation. However, the US pulled out of the ABM treaty. So that demonstration alone would suggest that some sort of Mach 21 missile could be tracked, targeted and destroyed. Even minor damage to a heat shield would destroy a missile travelling that fast.
Istanbuller wrote:America is bluffing. You can't keep Turkey in NATO with such threats.
Maybe keeping Turkey in NATO is not Trump's objective. As an ally, Turkey proved useless during the Iraq War. They have been difficult to deal with during the conflict in Syria. America has a lot of pseudo allies, and Trump is the sort of iconoclast that wants to undermine paper tiger alliances particularly with allies who either don't pull their weight or act in a hostile manner to the rest of the alliance.
Istanbuller wrote:Turkey's possible departure from NATO means massive military shrinkage for the West.
It means being honest about NATO's actual military capability. Today, the US and UK are first rate militaries. We get full cooperation from Eastern European countries like Poland and Czechia. Allies like Germany are weak and have been weak for a long time.
Istanbuller wrote:It is major development and game changer thing.
That game may already have changed, and Trump is just making it obvious to the rest of the NATO allies.
Istanbuller wrote:Probably most important development in international politics in last four decades.
The fall of the Soviet Union easily eclipses this development. It's the biggest development for Turkey in four decades for sure.
Tintin Storm wrote:It is known that the weapons at the disposal of Russia have always been the most reliable, powerful and killing in the world.
Russia is known for robust weaponry, not necessarily the most powerful or sophisticated by any stretch.
Tintin Storm wrote:Also, it is impossible to disregard the development of the T-14 tank, which in the USA was called a revolution in tank building, and also reported that NATO has no competitor among the combat vehicles.
Abrams tanks have been continuously upgraded throughout their life. The idea that an M1 today is equal to one in 1982 is a huge mistake. The US recycles the Chobham armor hulls and basically builds entirely new tanks out of them.
Tintin Storm wrote:The newest 2B25 «Gall» mortars began to enter the Russian army, which are characterized by almost complete noiselessness, making it very difficult to detect the position from which the shooting is being conducted.
Anti-artillery systems use radar, not acoustics, to calculate the firing position and calculate a firing solution to return fire. It happens in seconds.
Tintin Storm wrote:It is possible to bring a mortar into a combat position from a traveling one in just 30 seconds; it is able to work at an ambient temperature of minus 50 to plus 50 degrees Celsius, a crew of two men. Also, the undoubted advantage of the 2B25 mortar is the stealthness of the firing position and the suddenness of its use due to the noiselessness, flamelessness and smokelessness of shooting, due to the peculiarities of the design scheme and the use of the silent 3PO35 shot.
That will be wonderful against lesser armed adversaries, and even against NATO troops outside the protection of C-RAM counter-artillery. I wouldn't want to be one of those mortar operators within the combat radius of a US C-RAM counter-artillery battery though. It's wicked stuff. They can actually hit mortars with rockets (albeit only about 30% of the time), and have a firing solution to hit the launcher simultaneously (much more accurate). You really have to shoot and scoot very quickly to avoid becoming BBQ meat.
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