JohnRawls wrote:I am aware that the alt-right/Brexiteers have approximately the same griefs with liberalism as the the left. Hence we have situations like in Italy. What of it?
This will ultimately make the EU stronger. We have problems obviously and we are changing because of it as we try to sort them out. This change is slower than I would like and I really hoped the EU election will accelerate it. It did but not much. I really wished we could get some compromise candidate between the alt-right and the centrists but since alt-right did so badly, we need to settle for a deal between the left and the centre: probably Frans Timmermans.
As with any form of dogma, 'Liberalism', when take to it's logical end, is indistinct from the the Right or Left, they all end up in that bubble called the 'Middle Ground', or as BLAIR called it, the 'Third Way'.
In markets, what makes them move are transactions, big or small, no matter who or what the trade is, in politics, being in that middle ground, is a recipe for nothing happening, simply because all sides end up in a conspiratorial, agreeable state, that betrays democracy & freedom.
There becomes no 'Left', 'Right', only a 'Middle' ground that only politicians occupy, a political 'no-man's land', it's for the populace, a reality that leaves them in the doldrums & it's insanely stupid.
It's stupid, because, what is the point of democracy, when every politician occupies the same ideological space & there is an effective one-party state?
That's what the U.K became under BLAIR-BROWN, they(Labour) thought that they were unelectable before Blair was elected leader, they also thought that they won in 1997 because of BLAIR, with his policies, unbelievable stupidity political analysis, because it was utterly wrong.
Today's Labour Party is occupied by political zombies, people that are intellectually & pschologically dysfunctional.
They make CORBYN look electable, which he very likely will\could be, not because of Labour's policies, but, because of Tory policies.
It's a well known, though little publicised political truth in the U.K, that a party does not win power,but that, a government does lose power, that is what happened with BLAIR, he lied to Labour supporters, by saying that unless they reformed, meaning that they had to accept his 'Third Way', or they would remain in opposition after 13 years of Tory misrule.
So, the Labour Party, that was created by Trade Unionist working class people over generations, was sacrificed on the altar of the mythical, utopian Shangri-La that BLAIR directed them to & everything that Labour had ever strived for, was sacrificed for NOTHING.
As if BLAIR 's objective's were ever of any long term benefit, today's party supporters have learnt nothing from BLAIR's effect on them politically, they too are collectively living in that utopian paradise & will merely create the play ground for another Tory period in office.
They will not deliver a manifesto for the people affected by Tory policies designed specifically against them or their interest if elected, they will only deliver more public spending for which businesses will profit from, but those affected above, will be in exactly the same position at the end of a Labour government, as they were now & any insignificant 'gains' will then be reversed when the Tories regain power.
Only a really radical, revolutionary l(not a John McDonald) Labour government can deliver permament change that benefits people & not even CORBYN has a clue on how to achieve that.
Putting aside the rhetoric, I could furnish them with a truly revolutionary change in this country, but, they would never listen, because they are tone deaf & think theirs is the only way to do things.
They never see the irony in that position though, looking at their website would depress anyone hoping for change with the coming of a Labour government, the fallen just don't appreciate just how far they have fallen & Labour have fell a long long way.