- 17 Nov 2018 23:40
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Yes, B0ycey, you are embarrassing yourself. We are talking about a treaty, also sometimes called an international agreement.
I don't even know what you are trying to say here. It makes no sense.
In case you haven't noticed my issue is with the UK govt as much as it is with the EU. And could you please stop with the self-flagellation and platitudes?
Yes, the UK-wide backstop was the UK govt's idea in response to the EU's NI backstop.
And again, under this agreement the EU has zero incentives to negotiate anything and it can prevent the UK from withdrawing.
B0ycey wrote:Embarrass myself?
Yes, B0ycey, you are embarrassing yourself. We are talking about a treaty, also sometimes called an international agreement.
B0ycey wrote:It is what it is Kaiser. It's a bloody backstop. When the UK no longer wants to negotiate everything is over. This agreement is over.
I don't even know what you are trying to say here. It makes no sense.
B0ycey wrote:Stop acting as if the EU is a bully because it wants to protect its Single Market.
In case you haven't noticed my issue is with the UK govt as much as it is with the EU. And could you please stop with the self-flagellation and platitudes?
B0ycey wrote:Not this backstop Kaiser, another. This one is the UK making because May was asked to come up with an idea that stops the border being in the Irish Sea. This was her solution. But it is important to note the backstop remains as long as negotiations are still taking place. It is the target to get these negotiations finalised before a backstop is required BTW. And if the EU drag their feet (your claim) it is up to the UK to decide what they want to do about how far they want to take talks isn't it? This isn't as fixed as you think it is. Only if the goal is to maintain an open Irish border.
Yes, the UK-wide backstop was the UK govt's idea in response to the EU's NI backstop.
And again, under this agreement the EU has zero incentives to negotiate anything and it can prevent the UK from withdrawing.
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