[quote="Presvias"]No no no, Boris was not elected.WRONG!
BoJo is both an elected Conservative MP, for Uxbridge & S'th Ruislip,he is elected as the Leader of that party for which the position of PM is integral to that leadership & that is the mandate to which he has inherited from Theresa MAY.
The Conservative Party was elected to be the government, democracy elects government's, not individual leaders, a government of any particular flavour is determined by the electorate, that is to say that the electorate gave the government a mandate to govern, irrespective of the current 'confidence' position in parliament, woe betide the opposition wreckers of that mandate to govern at the election to come.
So go to Bruxelles and fucking talk to them, don't stand around like an obese snow monkey/hunchback webbed foot inbred prat 'pretending to negotiate' (Barnier's words). Him and so many who like him/support him have lost the plot worse than the 'illib undems'.Ok, quick translation required here,
have you lost the plot?
When will people understand that consensus and compromise = progress. Would that be a 'rake's' progress?
Bojo is nothing like Churchill, Churchill understood negotiation extremely well, he was a master of debate, charm and wit, even if he did have a lot of questionable views.I don't know, cut-dye his(BoJo's) hair, put a cigar in his mouth, add Churchill's hat,with a walking stick,then, were
you to meet him in the street, from whence in close proximity to him, he then proceeds to give you the customary 'two-fingers' & I am sure you wouldn't know the difference between him or Churchill.
Bojo posesses not one of those qualities.Give him time,I'm sure that he will provide more leadership qualities than any of the current alternative offerings, or of his immediate predecessor.
Lol no, this length of suspension is nowhere near normal.LOL, it's abnormally short-7 days,additionally,but separate to, are 3 weeks for conference season, with a further two for the parliamentary recess, don't listen to the perjurers in the Supreme Court with their lies that say anything different.
But the point stands, ie people expect bojo to do outrageous things; and they hold different politicians (like blair) to different standards.You might be disappointed there somewhat, all P.M's have their personal defects of character, BoJo is acting in accordance with long established political standards, ask Michael HESTLETINE, he ought to know, just stay clear of the Mace when asking a pointed question.
I agree that people hold different politicians to different standards,they are, after all, just like the rest of us, with few exceptions, inconsistent,particularly on self-examination of their views.
Politicians always pull shit like that. And peerless inbred numpties continuously fall for it.Which proves the exception to the rule, that like repels like, rather, small minds attract other small minds.
Fair point, except Corbyn is a tad different to Blair .Agreed.
Granted, he's very flawed but you know, no t blair.BLAIR is a publicly recognised 'BLIAR', but that is a pre-requisite to being a politician.
And we could have a birdscheissestocracy where Boris Karloff and Asian Nosferatu (Javid) and lord baldemort (D Cummings) totally asset strip the country. Hmm.Just a minute, I will consult with my Google 'Translator', LOL.
Kind of acting a bit Pinochet-ish, that Karloff bloke isn't he? Kind of fits the latin american thing you talked about except later on from the time period.That reminds me, I fancy a 'Chile', but not 'Con carne', seriously, he is a Leader my good man, be positive, give the 'poor' man some good cheer, praise him for once..praise be!
It's true we could have riots anyway, but that's why people like me (democrats) want the best deal ie the consensus of the country, so remainers and leavers don't go all frenetic.Being a 'democrat', I am sure that you, like the majority of us in 1973-5, accepted the democratic decision with the usual British equanimity.
So that'll cost uk car manufacturers 50k a day while there's no deal in place, nevermind pasdported FS biz, or other biz, how long do you think it will take to finish passing legislation? Even if they started today, they probably wouldn't be close to finishing before 31st Oct. But you probably already knew that.Businesses have had 3 years in which to prepare for the inevitable, if it cost them, it's because it's their fault that they are unprepared.
The unravelling of the original Treaty of Rome, along with successive Treaty ammendments, bringing current Treaty related legal repatriation of legislation into British Statute, with many other similar actions could be done quite quickly.
That's because the measures required are already in preparation mode, ready for motions before the house of commons,in particular, one of the first effects will be to protect the rights of people under E.U aquis.
In any case, the reverse of propoguing parliament would happen, extending sessions until the necessary measures are agreed, which could be nodded through on a show of hands, because there would be no point in opposing them post 31 October, unless such MP's are intent on damaging the interest of the country, of whih they have already achieved extensively.
And if you suspended it til 2022 it might destroy the whole economy, because BJ is utterly guileless and incapable.No need to suspend beyond 31 October, don't underestimate BoJo, his intelligence is deeper than his looks, as the saying goes,' don't judge a book by it's cover' & no the economy will not be destroyed.
It's simply the truth; total exec privilege with no oversight.There will be time to scrutinise the proposed 'deal' if there is one,no guarantee's that it will pass muster in the Commons though, but then you 'knew' that already, didn't you?