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Donna wrote:I think people are kind of looking at this all backwards. It's actually a pretty stunning indictment of late capitalism that the Tory Party has become a massive party of electable technocrats with no real commitment to Tory ideals, even neoliberal ones. It might be good for Tory politicians that winning elections is a given, but there's a lot of systemic contradictions packed into that gravy train.
ingliz wrote:If I remember rightly. it was you that left the field after I posted an Adorno quote explaining why you, and people like you, are a very silly.
defend the prophecy
ingliz wrote:Are you really this dense?
Late capitalism is a fact and Marx's analysis of it is correct but when has a fact or a rational analysis determined the course of the world.
The old is dying, the new struggles to be born, and in the interregnum there are many morbid symptoms.
SolarCross wrote:It is a fact...
ingliz wrote:The old order is on its last legs.
No social order ever disappears before all the productive forces for which there is room in it have been developed.
So it will stagger on with corporations gobbling up the nation states, austerity for the poor, and expanding debt. That is an unfolding fact not a prophecy - one of the many morbid symptoms of collapse.
Whether this leads to revolution is not in doubt but when and what form it takes, given the increasingly apathetic 'bread and circuses' population, cannot be predicted.
ingliz wrote:It will be?
It already has been! The first thing Keir Starmer did on becoming leader was cull the Corbynites among the Shadow Cabinet. He's got his eyes on the NEC, now.
Normal service has resumed.
SolarCross wrote:The end is always nigh.
SolarCross wrote:as long as we agree
ingliz wrote:We don't.
If you had the patience to read Marx before you post your silly memes and were able to engage with the arguments made, people might take you more seriously. As it is you just come across as a witless fool who doesn't know his arse from his elbow.
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