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Introducing: The Irish Antifa Project

In December of last year a Twitter account was set-up. Titled “Irish Students Against Fascism”, it described itself as an aspiring antifascist organising hub to physically, socially and professionally harass individuals engaged with conservative or nationalist politics on campuses.

Very soon the account garnered well over a thousand followers, with retweets from the Union of Students Ireland’s official account among other leftist activist organizations. The account boasted of an impending website dumping incriminating material relating to students on campus, particularly in Young Fine Gael, and invited individuals to contribute over private messaging.

What has been unknown until today was that, from the very onset, the page was operated by students involved with The Burkean. The account was set up with the intent of performing long term investigative work into antifascism in Ireland, as well as its insidious and often blatant links with civic society, journalism and politics.

Put politely, antifascism is the euphemism given to the work done to destroy the lives of people with right leaning sympathies. While traditionally associated with left republicanism, it is these days more often than not linked to Ireland’s ubiquitous NGO complex, as well as well-funded activists heavily networked within the world of journalism, politics and the private sector.

Many young people on the Irish Right have long claimed that there is institutional bias constantly working against them. However, it is only now that we can definitively say that this is not the case.

There is no institutional bias against young conservatives. There is an outright conspiracy against them. A conspiracy that starts at the lower levels of university life and leads all the way up, like a conveyor belt, to the NGO complex and the halls of the Oireachtas. Individuals brazenly abusing their positions of power trying to destroy their political opponents, with no fear of repercussions. It is with this series of exposés that these repercussions will finally start to materialise.

Over the coming weeks, The Burkean will be publishing a series of exclusive messages, audio and video recordings that give a hint of the sheer scale of this corruption. These materials will show how students and organizations deemed to be politically dissentious had their data gathered and distributed amongst a host of campus activists, violent and non-violent, all with the support student government.

This project will demonstrate how major student institutions treat those they perceive as politically dissident, as well as the degree to which they abuse their positions of power. Organisations such as Young Fine Gael were specifically targeted, with senior members of student organisations expressing a desire to help for private meetings to be infiltrated and members doxxed. From members of the Oireachtas to street activists, to an assortment of foreign financed NGOs and political activists ranging from Ógra Fianna Fáil to People Before Profit, the scale of the blatant corruption is remarkable. A spotlight shall be shown not merely on a rotten system of partisan corruption, but also on how power relations operate in Ireland against those deemed a threat to established power.

Antifascist activity should and must carry a degree of social stigma matching its maliciousness, and henceforth, in Ireland it will. What will be made public in the coming weeks is not some elaborate Soros funded conspiracy theory, but hard evidence of a clear nexus of people with one hand on the levers of power at every level of Irish life.


The university officials of today will be the Oireachtas members and civil servants of tomorrow. What various officials and activists said to undercover writers could have just as easily been said to genuine antifascist activists with real paramilitary links. While the Irish media and the left has made a cottage industry looking for a vast right wing conspiracy of foreign funding and online data collection, we have hours of audio and hard evidence showing institutional abuse of power at every stage of Irish life.

All this and much more will be revealed in gruesome detail in the coming weeks, exclusively on The Burkean.


Every major city in Western nations should have been doing this years ago already.
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maz wrote:Every major city in Western nations should have been doing this years ago already.


the intelligence agencies of every Western country have been doing this for years already. antifa is a perfect vehicle for provocateuring violent acts and then using the violence to break left opposition. these antifa people are such fucking clowns, they have no clue what they've started with this shit. If the left ever even got close to any real power the deep state will turn antifa back around on itself and use it as a pretext to destroy the left. And this isn't conspiracy theory, NATO did it for decades after WW2 all across Europe.
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Sivad wrote:
If the left ever even got close to any real power..



Antifa doesn't want power.

"We spoke to secret Antifa groups in Oregon. They said they come from a variety of political backgrounds but they were united in their opposition to fascism, and they have an anti-government streak."

You will be tempted to do the usual thing, we both know what that is.. But you might want to learn a bit first.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/X56rQkDgd0qqB7R68t6t7C/seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-antifa
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Antifa are thugs, unsuccessful people who use the pretext of fascism to commit violence and spread their Marxist views. The defeat of fascism in Europe was a monumental event, with many countries taking part in the war, millions of people dying and many countries being destroyed. This event once and for all proved that fascism was a dead end and not something any country should pursue as it can only end in many deaths and complete destruction. Public will never support fascism again, its a tiny fringe movement, just like communism.

We do not need some stupid Antifa thugs to fight nonexistent enemy. Their goal is to force their political views on general population through intimidation. They are the militant wing of progressives. I would never support a political group that doesn't denounce both right and left wing radical groups.

I find it intriguing how organized is Antifa in West. Nationalism is linked with fascism in West, while in the Eastern EU this is not the case. This leads to weakening of the concept of nation states. It is not to be confused with "white-nationalism" which is a very dubious and artificial concept, often racist in its definition. In the East people value sacrifices that were made to defeat fascism and all political groups united to defeat it.
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fokker wrote:
Antifa are thugs



There's a bunch of people that say Antifa saved their lives at Charlottesville.

They keep a national focus on terrorists, and if anyone is asking me, that's a good thing.
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late wrote:Antifa doesn't want power.

"We spoke to secret Antifa groups in Oregon. They said they come from a variety of political backgrounds but they were united in their opposition to fascism, and they have an anti-government streak."

You will be tempted to do the usual thing, we both know what that is.. But you might want to learn a bit first.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/X56rQkDgd0qqB7R68t6t7C/seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-antifa


I don't know how antifa works in Europe, but here in the US they appear to work as an arm of the local police and feds. They can do the kind of dirty work, such as profiling and surveillance that normal police and feds cannot do because of the 4th amendment or other legal constraints.

In theory, one of the ways that antifa can work is to create a public dossier on a person via "crowd sourcing," post it somewhere on the internet where the feds, police or lawyers can "find it" to it against that person.

But that's at the higher levels. At the lower street level, they are just used as a force for intimidation, such as the kinds of gangs that create flash mobs in front of people's homes in the middle of the night like what happened to Tucker Carlson.
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maz wrote:
Yes, because the right wing are out there everyday creating flashmobs of people who show up at liberal news casters homes in the middle of the night.



You really are going to ignore the hundreds of nasty things Right wing extremists do...

Oh well... perhaps Southern Black churches and Synagogues should add machine gun towers to their steeples.
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late wrote:You really are going to ignore the hundreds of nasty things Right wing extremists do...

Oh well... perhaps Southern Black churches and Synagogues should add machine gun towers to their steeples.


No one is saying that there possibly aren't some indiviual bad people from the right wing. Let's say that there are some right wing groups out there who do bad things. How many of them work in tandem with law enforcement, lawyers, various media outlets and journalists and NOGs like the Southern Poverty Law Center in the way that antifa does?
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maz wrote:
No one is saying that there possibly aren't some indiviual bad people from the right wing. Let's say that there are some right wing groups out there who do bad things. How many of them work in tandem with law enforcement, lawyers, various media outlets and journalists and NOGs like the Southern Poverty Law Center in the way that antifa does?



I thought you were supposed to report crimes...

Violent extremists like their anonymity, not hard to figure out why.
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maz wrote:No one is saying that there possibly aren't some indiviual bad people from the right wing. Let's say that there are some right wing groups out there who do bad things. How many of them work in tandem with law enforcement, lawyers, various media outlets and journalists and NOGs like the Southern Poverty Law Center in the way that antifa does?


the rightwing militia movement was lousy with feds and even that Charlottesville rally had a deep cover liberal involved in organizing it. All these groups are infiltrated if not outright fabricated by the cryptocracy.

What is a "controlled opposition"?

All throughout history the establishment has employed this technique to derail popular reform movements. Vladimir Lenin said that “the best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

Controlled Opposition: a strategy in which an individual, organization, or movement is covertly controlled or influenced by a 3rd party and the controlled entity’s true purpose is something other than its publicly stated purpose. The controlled entity serves a role of mass deception, surveillance or political/social manipulation. The controlled party is portrayed as being in opposition to the interests of the controlling party.

The purposes of controlled opposition include:

• Coopting or preempting a resistance movement to neutralize the threat that a grassroots movement would pose to an established power structure

• Preempt or neutralize true but negative information by having it be championed in a skewed or stigmatized fashion by a person or group. The truth can be peppered with misinformation or the truth of the message can be neutralized by association due to the extreme, radical, or unpalatable positions held by the controlled entity (person or group) who is disclosing the information or “championing” a position. The stigmatize truth or adulterated truth in turn steers people away from truthful information which would normally cause criticism or a serious backlash against the controlling party

• Hijack the goals and actions of an organization or movement for purposes other than those that were the original intentions of the grassroots movement

• Give the public the false illusion of choice by presenting a political party or organization that superficially speaks to the desires or frustrations of the people but whose actions do not further the stated goals of the organization

• Disinformation or deception of the masses. Steering the masses in the wrong direction or misdirect their energies, beliefs and actions

• Unmask and monitor the true opposition

• Create a chaotic and divisive environment in which the opposition cannot band together and there is general mistrust thereby ensuring that an organized opposition with clear goals and priorities never manifests

• Act in such a way that superficially appears to benefit the opposition, but in truth furthers the ends of the controlling party

The strategy of controlled opposition works best under circumstances in which the masses are gullible, credulous, lack critical thinking and are unable to connect the dots and see how the actions/inaction or manipulation of information from the controlled entity benefit the controlling entity.
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Sivad wrote:
feds... liberal...All these groups are infiltrated if not outright fabricated by the cryptocracy.



Of course, blame everyone else.

No need to think this might be their own damn fault, a result of hate and extreme incompetence.
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Sivad wrote:the rightwing militia movement was lousy with feds and even that Charlottesville rally had a deep cover liberal involved in organizing it. All these groups are infiltrated if not outright fabricated by the cryptocracy.

What is a "controlled opposition"?

All throughout history the establishment has employed this technique to derail popular reform movements. Vladimir Lenin said that “the best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”


Yes, the feds did all that in order to roll up as many right leaning white men as they could to support their secret Nazi white supremacist conspiracy theories.

Antifa worked directly with them to achieve that goal whether indirectly or directly. I think the evidence would point to the fact that they were working together in the Charlottesville operation.

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