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alyas wrote:the number of coronavirus cases in Italy more than tripled to at least 31,506 this week, and the death toll rocketed above 2,503.
Why the Coronavirus Hit Italy So Hard
The country has the second-oldest population on earth, and its young mingle more often with elderly loved ones.
Italy has been hit particularly hard, with some 2,000 deaths thus far. Overwhelmed hospital staffers have had to make devastating decisions about who to treat and who they must let perish. The reason why Italy is suffering so badly, write University of Oxford researchers in a new paper in the journal Demographic Science, may be twofold: The country has the second-oldest population on earth, and its young tend to mingle more often with the elderly, like their grandparents. Such demographic research will be critical in facing down the threat elsewhere, as more countries grapple with a deadly pandemic that’s just getting started and we learn more about how the virus is transmitted within families and communities.
In Italy, 23 percent of the population is over age 65, compared to the US, where that population is 16 percent. “Extended longevity has played some role in changing the population structure,” says University of Oxford demographer and epidemiologist Jennifer Beam Dowd, lead author of the new paper. “But it actually has most to do with how rapid the decline in fertility has been in a population.” That is, it’s affected more by Italians having having fewer children than it is by them living longer.
At the same time, young Italians tend to interact a lot with their elders. Dowd’s Italian coauthors note that young folks might live with their parents and grandparents in rural areas but commute to work in cities like Milan. Data on the composition of Italian households bears out this familial arrangement too.
https://www.wired.com/story/why-the-cor ... y-so-hard/
Mortality displacement denotes a temporary increase in the mortality rate (number of deaths) in a given population, also known as excess mortality or excess mortality rate. It is usually attributable to environmental phenomena such as heat waves, cold spells, epidemics and pandemics, especially influenza pandemics, famine or war.
During heat waves, for instance, there are often additional deaths observed in the population, affecting especially older adults and those who are sick. After some periods with excess mortality, however, there has also been observed a decrease in overall mortality during the subsequent weeks. Such short-term forward shift in mortality rate is also referred to as harvesting effect. The subsequent, compensatory reduction in mortality suggests that the heat wave had affected especially those whose health is already so compromised that they "would have died in the short term anyway".
Sivad wrote:Italy has one the oldest populations in the world, the median age is something like 48(US is 38).
AFAIK wrote:I don't how to say this without violating rule 2 so I'll just say ... your indifference to old people's unnecessary and premature deaths.
It's not a few weeks or months. An 80 yo has a life expectancy of 88.
Sivad wrote:Most of the people this virus is going to kill are the old and already sick. It might be sad to lose to your 80 year old granny or whatever but it's not exactly tragic when someone that age goes and it certainly doesn't make any sense to crash the global economy and allow governments to implement martial law just to keep the chronically olds alive for another few months.
We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 985v1.full
ThirdTerm wrote:Italians were also caught off guard because of this earlier study that claimed that Asians are five times more susceptible to the coronavirus than Europeans.
blackjack21 wrote:I've heard more than a few people say that this whole thing feels "rigged."
Sivad wrote:more than 56.6% of patients who have died from Covid-19 were over 80 years old
AFAIK wrote:So nearly half are under 80.
Sivad wrote:and our old people, the people who's lives we're saving with this massive sacrifice, don't have the wisdom or the decency to refuse it. These are people who have completely wasted their lives on bullshit and consumerism. They've cultivated no wisdom, they have zero fucking character, and the only thing they're gonna do with the few worthless years they have left is shop and consume. So what are the lives of selfish old fools really worth? I could give a fuck if they all dropped dead.
Ter wrote:You are such a nice person, I wish I had a son like you.
blackjack21 wrote:Italians who bought "woke" culture made it worse for everyone. "Wokeness" is the bane of our existence.
God how dumb the left is...
I don't follow markets that closely but I've been hearing for years now how stock prices have been massively inflated from buy-backs and the like. Maybe the big banks and hedge funds figured a pandemic was the perfect cover for them to artificially induce a major "correction". They could crash the market before the giant bubble they blew popped and they wouldn't get blamed by the public for it so the government could step in to bail them out. I don't know if that makes sense because I'm not all that well versed in markets but there's no doubt the whole thing is rigged somehow so it's gotta be something like that.
fokker wrote:The coronavirus pandemic may have devastating effect on the economy of Italy which is hit hardest. Spain could be close behind it. Italy was already in high debt before the virus hit. It seems young Italians and Spaniards will be fleeing their countries to find jobs elsewhere in the EU. Greece has become a refugee camp. The outlook of the southern EU is bleak. The middle part of EU around Germany will probably recover fastest. Recovery of northern EU will depend on how fast an effective vaccine will be found.
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