[Atlantis]

The timing was important. The EU got the best possible deal from the Chinese, who wanted the deal signed before Biden takes over the US presidency.

Even with the deal signed, the EU can still cooperate with the US for a common approach towards China. The difference will be that the EU won't just have to follow the US lead since it already has an extensive agreement with China. Trump has taught Europe that it can't rely on the US and that the EU has to find its own way.

The EU's advanced trade deals will increasingly include environmental issues and labor standards since they directly impact on trade and competitiveness; however, the EU can not and should not play the world's policeman for enforcing human rights.

Increased access to the Chinese market is very important. More than that, there is an awareness that there should be a strict reciprocity. Any new market barriers imposed by the Chinese should be immediately reciprocated by barriers to Chinese companies in Europe.

Europe should not try to impose its values on China, but the EU should enforce a rules-based regime in its dealing with the Chinese. If we want to have close relations with each other, both sides have to respect mutually aggreged rules.

It is possible to compete with China on a commercial basis. The worry ought to be that the US will focus on military competition in order to defend its hegemony. Europe has an interest not to be drawn into any US-China conflict.

[noemon]

Germany refused arms sanctions against Turkey under the excuse that she is waiting for Biden to take office and lead the way even though the US already has arms sanctions against Turkey.

Germany also refused Macron's call for a common strategic geopolitical approach and told him that she is waiting for Biden to take office and lead the way and stated openly via its ministers mouth that the "EU cannot rely on its own and needs US security guarantees to deal with its own borders" verbatim merely just a month ago.

Germany prevented the EU from doing both these things but forced the EU to bow down to the Chinese pre-empting the US in yet another display of western disunity validating China's divide & conquer policy.

This does not enforce any rules on the Chinese who have no rules to speak of, it just validates them.

[Patrickov]

Germany refused arms sanctions against Turkey under the excuse that she is waiting for Biden to take office and lead the way even though the US already has arms sanctions against Turkey.

Germany also refused Macron's call for a common strategic geopolitical approach and told him that she is waiting for Biden to take office and lead the way and stated openly via its ministers mouth that the "EU cannot rely on its own and needs US security guarantees to deal with its own borders" verbatim merely just a month ago.

Germany prevented the EU from doing both these things but forced the EU to bow down to the Chinese pre-empting the US in yet another display of western disunity validating China's divide & conquer policy.

This does not enforce any rules on the Chinese who have no rules to speak of, it just validates them.

Germany is too keen on and too good at doing business to be mean to anyone. In some sense, Germany probably sees themselves the real factory of the world, and believe most of their trading partners need Germany more than the other way round. They may let dictatorships thrive but they probably get the last laugh (and euro)

[noemon]

Germany is too keen on and too good at doing business to be mean to anyone. In some sense, Germany probably sees themselves the real factory of the world, and believe most of their trading partners need Germany more than the other way round. They may let dictatorships thrive but they probably get the last laugh (and euro)

German appeasement policy towards China, Russia & Turkey means that aggressors get the last laugh(and euro) and the dismantling of our international rules based order will eventually be the downfall of our European/western way of life. These rules are the only protective barrier we have.

[Skynet]

How will history judge?

1-3 million people are in concetration camps due to their faith. 75 years after Holocaust, where a religous minority was annhiliated

The families of abducted Uigur men get a Han-Chinese who "educates" them as new father, often happen rapes and so things.