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#15219787
Should the U.S. work toward regime change in Russia? Why not? It’s worked before when the Germans helped Lenin overthrow the Kerensky regime

No matter Lenin’s real intentions, it is undeniable that he received German logistical and financial support in 1917, and that his actions, from antiwar agitation in the Russian armies to his request for an unconditional cease-fire, served the interests of Russia’s wartime enemy in Berlin. — “Was Lenin a German Agent?”, The New York Times, June 19, 2017

What singled Lenin out from fellow Russian socialists was his fanatical opposition to the war and his support for Ukrainian independence.

It’s time for history to repeat itself. At the least, suspicion that one or more foreign governments are financing his potential overthrow should send Putin into a tailspin of paranoia, leading to more house arrests of Kremlin insiders and seeding distrust that could disrupt his war effort.
#15219792
1) It's a little late now.
2) Will it get us something worse? Remember Stalin, Beria, Andropov, Iron Felix Dzerzhinsky (yes, not the president, but still)? The whole f'n Kremlin is packed with hardliners and the Duma is a toothless institution.

Seriously, say yes and jerk off to it, if it makes you feel better. That seems to be the prevailing opinion of PoFo given the left's asshattery.

Many people have ALREADY died. This just shows the imbecilic mindset of vowing revenge when democrats are powerless by their own idiotic policies. Ukraine DID NOT have to happen if we had competent leadership. This whole debacle started with the piss-poor withdrawal implemented in Afghanistan and Biden filling the coffers of Russia by revaluing their number one export, OIL, to ridiculous prices thanks to his idiotic and poorly thought out executive orders.

Even "the U.S." can't make up it's f'n mind. Biden says yes, his staff says no. Seriously, who the F is running this country? Woke, Inc., and it shows.

Meanwhile, progressives will be sure to keep buying Nike's and iPhones, regardless of the Uygher slave labor in CN. Go figure. Some things are important. Some things are meant to LOOK important.

Back to more IMPORTANT things like Will Smith taking a swing at Chris Rock. :roll:
#15219809
If you want another 100 years of horrible US-Russia relations go out and destroy their sovereignty. Gee im sure Americans wouldn't swear a death- wish on Russia if they blew up the White House and killed the potus.

Uhm has America learned yet that guns don't solve every problem in international relations?
#15221166
"Tell me, why is it a bad idea to invade another country and violently replace their govenment ? Isnt that what democracy is ? A country that has a government thats approved and put in position by the USA oligarchs ?

Yes, thats 100% how democracy is defined.

For example, the president of Venezuela is clearly Guaido. Hasnt run in an election, would have zero chances to win an election, but was approved by the USA, so he's 100% legit.

So yeah, why would you call regime change wars illegal. Democracy is a human right, after all. We should bring democracy to everyone.

Especially also Russians. We already approved the racist and fashist Nawalny as russian president, after all. Polls in the single digits, but he has our favor. Time to install him for real.

Oh nevermind that Russia has one of the most powerful militaries worldwide and is a nuclear superpower. I'm sure it will be fine. A little world war 3 cannot hurt us. The consequences of war are always only for regular people."

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