Potemkin wrote:Workers - including teachers and nurses and people like that - have always been paid peanuts in Britain. The fundamental problem is the class system in Britain: the people who make the decisions have no relatives who are working class or even lower middle class and regard themselves as ‘a breed apart’, having nothing in common with the hoi polloi, the labouring masses. They regard the whole point of the masses as being to work for peanuts to support the lavish lifestyle of the upper class. After all, why else do the masses even exist? The working class is ‘the servant class’, by definition. And things should stay that way.
Historically speaking, protesting on the streets in Britain achieves nothing. For example, just before the invasion of Iraq in 2003, there was the largest mass protest in British history, demonstrating against it. What effect did this have? None whatsoever. Tony Blair went ahead and invaded Iraq, causing hundreds of thousands of casualties and costing billions of pounds of British taxpayers money, all based on lies. This is why people in Britain don’t bother protesting - it achieves nothing, and the MI5 spooks just open a file on you as a ‘troublemaker’.
Capitalism is the disease. Communism is the cure.
I find that entire society extremely resistant to change. It is incredibly rigid. I find it very curious. Why do they put up with that lack of change so much?
The US government had to get tough on the Puerto Ricans in the 1930s during the Great Depression, and they had to get violent, do massacres, and bomb towns. They arrested a lot of people took the leadership of the Nacionalista movement into custody and exposed him to radiation experiments. They had mass sterilization of Puerto Rican women. The reason behind that was that the reason why poverty existed on the island and Puerto Ricans kept protesting even though they were US citizens since 1917 was because they had too many children and the authorities in Washington DC found us very rebellious in nature. Had to stop reproducing rebels. The women were targets of sterilization campaigns.
No, Potemkin darling, the problem in the UK is complacency. If one third of the entire society would hit the street in front of 10 Downing and chase down the PM an the Lords in the House of Lords in Parliament and etc and pressure for months and they shouted down the ability to hold press conferences, and did what the Ricans did for months to oust Ricky Rossello? The top elite in the UK would have to do something about it.
That is why I know for a fact if all of us UNITE as one against the US government and we want change and demand it nonstop? It will happen. The US government could get violent again. I expect it. But that the Boricuas are going to be passive lambs while they lose it all because the American government just is more powerful than we are? It is not going to happen.
The American Government underestimated the Cubans, the Nicaraguans, and many others over time Potemkin. I read the files they kept on these 'rebels' and even Henry Kissinger said that the reality is that the Latin Americans are not the kind of people to be accepting things passively. After all most of our nations adopted very radical constitutions with full civil liberties. What is impeding progress is sellout behavior through an elite. And even in Mexico (right next door to the USA), the Left is going for another six year term. My doctor is pro MORENA, but others prefer the PT which are more radical. Mexico like most of Latin America has a very well developed Leftist movement. People do pressure and organize according to their class identifications.
I find the UK far too conformist in thinking for my liking Potemkin. That has to be dealt with to build a good movement. No government if pressured very very hard and forced to take action will have the luxury of ignoring one third or more of constantly protesting Britons.
The Irish got their Republic because they were violent, and constantly violent and nonstop troubles. Why? Because sitting on your ass thinking the British are going to give you concessions without pressure is not realistic. Eventually it becomes an impossible thing to administer. People who do not want you there and do not want your rule. It depends on the will of the people to fight the problems. Otherwise it is all ceding to the powerful over and over again. Things never change.
The Anglo working class are horribly conformist is my conclusion.
- By Rich