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By Neutralname
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You seem oblivious to the fact that there is almost no immigration going on into their region. Ellecting an anti-immigration party makes almost as much sense as electing a party which is concerned with the level of siberian tigers in their region.


You seem oblivious to the possibility that they might identify themselves as Germans, and that they have a stake in Germany as a whole, and the German people as a whole.

It is obvious that immigration matters to these people, why else would they vote for an anti-immigration party? This being the case, and if there is almost no immigration to the region, then it follows that they have opinions that do not end at regional boundaries.
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By soron
#976951
It is obvious that immigration matters to these people, why else would they vote for an anti-immigration party?


Actually no. The NPD is the anti-party. The majority of the Germans is not satisfied with the way our government does (not) solve the problems. Right now we have a "grand coalition" of the 2 largest parties, CDU on the right, SPD on the left. Instead of fixing things they shuffle for positions in preparation of the next election when one of both is hoping to get enough votes in order to do cater towards their clientel instead of having to do those awkward compromisses that would actually benefit everybody.
So we have the foolish situation that the current government is in an undisputed position of power, with overwhelming majorities in both houses - but the 2 partners are unable to compromise on anything but the least common denominator.

So you see it's rather a sign of failure of the large political parties and not because the NPD would have such an attractive party programm. I suppose most voters vote for the NPD because they learned from the past media coverage that this will annoy the established parties a great deal - sort of a wake-up call.
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By Andres
#976953
Shade wrote:However they want to annex most of Poland. That would be no doubt bring milions of Poles into Germany. How does NPD formulate its solution to Polish problem ?

Do you really need someone else to spell it out for you?

neutralname wrote:You seem oblivious to the possibility that they might identify themselves as Germans, and that they have a stake in Germany as a whole, and the German people as a whole.

And how is electing an anti-immigration party to the local parliament going to solve their problems that have little to do with immigration or the problems of germans elsewhere? Scapegoating is all they are doing, ellecting a party that promotes the solution of a non-existant problem in their region, and has very little clue as to how to solve the actual problems.

It is obvious that immigration matters to these people, why else would they vote for an anti-immigration party?

Because they are either racists, or idiots being duped. I have told you before that it is scapegoating.

This being the case, and if there is almost no immigration to the region, then it follows that they have opinions that do not end at regional boundaries

And it would be nice when they express them in federal elections, but this was an election for the local parliament which is going to have very little influence at the federal level.
By Vasili Schmidt
#976961
However they want to annex most of Poland. That would be no doubt bring milions of Poles into Germany. How does NPD formulate its solution to Polish problem ?


Heh. According to the logic you use e.g "Russian occupation of Poland", Polish state currently occupies German territory in Silessia, West Prussia, and others. If these historic German lands were to be unified with Germany, Poles can be driven east just like how the Poles drove the Germans west when they took over Silesia, etc after WWII.
By Shade2
#977346
So you advocate ethnic cleansing of Polish people ?
just like how the Poles drove the Germans west when they took over Silesia, etc after WWII.

Sorry but your historical education is quite low. Poland had Silesia before WW2.
By Vasili Schmidt
#978021
Sorry but your historical education is quite low. Poland had Silesia before WW2.


You should at least know what you are talking about before you proceed to throw around insults. Silesia divided into Upper and Lower Silesia was part of Free State of Prussia from 1919-1945. The abbreviations os and ns specifically stand for Silesia.:

[Edit - find a smaller map - Rob]
By Neutralname
#978109
andreas wrote
And it would be nice when they express them in federal elections, but this was an election for the local parliament which is going to have very little influence at the federal level.


I know from the recent local elections in Britain that people don't vote just on local issues. Zum Bespiel, just before the elections there was a scandal involving thousands of foreign national prisoners who should have been deported but were insted released into Britain- This led to big gains for both the center right(conservatives) and the far right (BNP), this was due to an issue that had nothing to do with local councils. People want to protest, and local elections are a way to do it.
By Corporatist
#978620
Andres is absolutely right here, this has little to do with multiculturalism or racism (something certain people on this forum associate with everything). It has everything to do with the uncertainties of life in post-war East Germany: high unemployment, inflation and little promise with a right-wing, free marketeer national government that has totally given up on the neue mitte.

I can totally understand the people there voting for the NPD, considering the Communists are still in relatively poor regard. Nevertheless it is depressing to watch people buy the filth that these sorts of fascists spill out.
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