RedPillAger wrote:still failed to answer it
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RedPillAger wrote:still failed to answer it
PoliticoSchizo wrote:Now... how about my fellow liberals? Do you agree with the good Doctor? 'Tis nobler to die a victim than to insist on one's right to self-defense? Step right up...
RedPillAger wrote:still failed to answer itJust because you don't LIKE, or understand, the explanation, doesn't mean it isn't a good one.
Godstud wrote::roll: Just because you don't LIKE, or understand, the explanation, doesn't mean it isn't a good one.
There is a reason people in most civilized countries, cannot carry guns around with them. That is because most people are not responsible enough to be trusted to use them safely, and without malice.
RedPillAger wrote:
i'll ask again. where do any of you get the right or authority to keep another from owning or carrying a weapon? if you do not have that authority yourselves, how do you give it to the government?
annatar1914 wrote:God.
Government has the duty and responsibility to protect and defend it's citizens, from each other and their enemies outside it's domain, and that duty and responsibility has been given unto it by God. Citizens have the duty to obey actual laws, and the right to be protected by those laws in turn and by their government's responsible use of the monopoly of force. There is no right of rebellion to justify the bearing of arms either.
In a state of Anarchy, other options of course apply, in lawless areas.
i'm afraid you only beg the question in espousing a theocracy
...not the least of which is needing to prove the existence of god
and why, if it does exist, should people bow to its perceived authority.
i'll ask again. where do any of you get the right or authority to keep another from owning or carrying a weapon? if you do not have that authority yourselves, how do you give it to the government?
"Happy for us that when we find our constitutions defective and insufficient to secure the happiness of our people, we can assemble with all the coolness of philosophers and set it to rights, while every other nation on earth must have recourse to arms to amend or to restore their constitutions." --Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1787. ME 6:295, Papers 12:113
FYI, children are more likely to die in the family swimming pull, than by the family gun.
your answer is that the government has the authority, and that you gave it to them. this is circular, and doesn't answer where you got it in the first place. you still have not answered it.
Drlee wrote:Come back after you have taken a class in US Government. This argument is obviously way over your head.
Americanroyalty wrote:It's obvious authority comes from guns.
Seriously though the authority of all nations is largely predicated on their ability to control and that involves military/police powers backed with force.
RedPillAnger wrote:this is a "might makes right" argument. i don't think that qualifies as legitimacy for authority.
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