Drlee wrote:Dr Lee said, "People who complain about political correctness have insecurity problems. It seems that they feel that if there is nobody to look down upon then THEY must be at the bottom of the pile."
So far nobody argued with this.
Before taking a victory lap, keep in mind that arguing the point is against the forum rules. PoFo does not believe in free speech.
Drlee wrote:What would you like to say that is politically incorrect.
Political correctness is nothing more than manners.
No, it is not. Try using the n-word on this forum. Hell, I wrote a thread and referred to Dianne Feinstein as "Demented Dianne," and you campaigned to have the title--MY TITLE--changed to something YOU found less offensive. Since the thread has authors, the moderators in effect change the words of an author. You find absolutely no problem with that. I find it to be unethical and dishonest, because it attributes to someone words that they did not choose or express themselves.
Drlee wrote:We live in a world where boorish and ignorant people have a greater potential for being exposed.
Not everyone operates with powerful feelings of guilt or shame like you do.
Drlee wrote:The fact that 50 years ago I could more or less freely use a derogatory racial term was because nobody found out. Nobody who cared.
40 years ago you could write a movie like Blazing Saddles lampooning racism using derogatory racial terms to poke fun at racism. Today, you cannot make that film. Most comedians are politically left of center. They are lamenting political correctness, because one formula for humor is pain+time. That is, what was once painful becomes funny with time and some reframing.
Amazon put Smokey and the Bandit in its trending list following the death of Burt Reynolds. So I watched that. There is a scene where Jackie Gleason looks at a black sheriff, then at his son and says, "What is this world coming to?" That could not be made today either.
Shit. There are schools that are pulling "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" because a bunch of left wing bedwetters cannot handle the honest use of how people spoke in the Jim Crow South or along the Mississippi River during the 19th Century.
Drlee wrote:On the other hand, if I had used it at work on an airline I would have been fired then too.
Well let's take the case of Paula Dean. She was asked during the Obama years whether she had ever used racist language, and she assented that she had when she was growing up when it was common in the South. They used that as a pretext to create a political kerfuffle and cancel her show.
You have stated here that racist attitudes were common with your parents up to a point, when they (and you) changed; and thereafter, anyone who spoke with the same language and attitudes you used to speak with are condemned as ignorant and hateful. Yet, by the Paula Dean standard, you could be fired from your job for something you never did on the job, on the air, or in the last 10 years with the mob mentality of today's political left.
Drlee wrote:When the Arizona Revised Statutes were written in 1956, it was illegal to use swear words in front of a woman or child. You could go to jail for this.
Yes. That is the operation of law. It was controlled by the legislature, executive and courts. Who controls political correctness? Where is the due process? Where is the written law? Where is notice? What are the standards of proof? What is an acceptable punishment? What is the statue of limitations? For using foul language in front of women and children, that could be definitively answered.
Drlee wrote:Was that political correctness?
That is the operation of law.
Drlee wrote:Also in 1956 homosexual acts were illegal in most states.
Yes. Anal sex between men and/or men and animals has been known to spread illness since Biblical times, well before there was a germ theory of disease. Yet, it was decriminalized by people who knew very well about the germ theory of disease. 35M people have died from HIV/AIDS alone since 1980--a plague of biblical proportions.
Drlee wrote:In fact, oral sex even between married individuals was illegal in many states.
Yes. Our founding fathers were natalists. They wanted children, and lots of them. They would have hung the LGBTQIA+ crowd by the neck.
Drlee wrote:But if word got back to the boss that you were a drunk, or abused your wife, or insulted a customer, you were gone. Fired.
In many states, only the latter case would be tolerated. Without a public figure morals clause, firing someone for drinking alcohol on their own time or firing them for domestic issues is actionable in a court of law. Heck, I used to work for attorneys back during the economic downturn. One of them had an office on 22 Battery Street in San Francisco--an older building. The corner office in the suite had a built in bar, because it was common courtesy to offer someone an alcoholic drink at one point in society too.
Drlee wrote:So now someone posts on their facebook page that they work at Acme Dynamite Factory and then two page later use a racial slur and they are surprised when they are fired. This is not political correctness run wild. It is just the traditional, natural and completely justified result of an act of incredible dumbassery.
There really is no such thing as political correctness.
It's not all "completely justified." It often involves litigation. Your idea of "justification" is because people might use such public comments in a court of law to try to establish a basis for some sort of discrimination law suit. This is one reason some people do not like Civil Rights legislation, such as your beloved Barry Goldwater.
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