JohnRawls wrote:Listen, loosing 400% of your gdp means that you produce 4 times less of goods, services and so on in simpler terms. You might be for distribution of wealth and so on since the previous right wing government before maduro/chavez didn't care about it that much but reality is when you produce 4 times less then there is not much you can distribute.
Equating Maduro or Chaves to the Soviet Union would be humiliating for the Soviet Union. The only place that you can equate Venezuela right now is perhaps North Korea but they didn't loose 20% of their population.
John, you need to stop making false comparisons. Russia and the ex USSR are its own circumstances. Colombia and Venezuela and Latin America are another set of circumstances. Each nation has specific conditions. Africa and Latin America have been exploited for their enormous resources for a very long time by the Eurpean powers and the USA for a very long time now. The entire economy of the region is set up to be extraction economies. Not independent economies with self sustaining well educated populations.
Puerto Rico lost more than half of its population because being a colony of the USA is not set up to help the Puerto Ricans have a great economy independent of the USA relationship. There are about 3 million Puerto Ricans in the island, and about 6 million in the USA. After Hurricane Maria they lost to migration about 200 to 300,000 people. And that is a pro capitalist and super controlled by the USA nation. It is not shocking to lose 20% of your population with that kind of bad economic extraction shitty style of setup John.
Why doesn't the economy work? If you do a lot of investigation into Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Chile and many others? There is a very very consistent pattern. It has been extremely detrimental for the nations with the extraction setup economy where it is one sided and it only favors foreign banks, the IMF and debt service to other financial interests and in fact in Superimperalism by Michael Hudson (you should read it), it is the way the black ops from the USA get their money to operate in Latin America. Use the debt to pay for their own enslavement is the premise.
When you try to break that cycle of dependency whether it is on the USA federal fund transfers in Puerto Rico, or debt payments to the IMF in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina or Peru, etc. you get a backlash from hell from the US corporate insterests. This is backed up with the documents and historical facts talked about with Major General Smedley Butler who was a USMC man who did the work for the Washington DC people in the 1930s and before. It is there in front of your eyes John.
But if you keep thinking that the circumstances of Latin America are the circumstances of Europe or Asia or some other group that have been on the receiving end of Latin America's wealth? You would be invalid in analysis.
The VP of Colombia is Francia Marquez. She is a lawyer and an activist. She worked as a domestic servant.
She is really the kind of leader Colombia needs so is Gustavo Petro. Human rights and with a lot of experience fighting corporations and being able to bring peace in the chaos.
How do you deal with the problems that Latin America faces? First of all? Education. Invest enormous amounts in getting people educated. And I do mean well educated. Speaking various languages with fluency, reading and writing and science, math, technology and also art and tradition. If it is one thing the Latin Americans do extremely well is art, and artistic endeavors. Also tradition is something that is of enormous beauty. The land in Latin America is the best on Earth. I am being objective. It is the most varied, the most fertile, enormous and full of every possible utility. That is why the corporations are after it. So is the PRC. They know that if China is to survive and expand and hold on to power it needs everything Latin America has in abundance. The USA has thought they can force their way into dominating the decisions in this region. They have been successful because the USA was the only superpower after WWII left standing without an economy in ruin. The USSR imploded in the early 90s and now the PRC is coming on strong. So? The mistakes the USA has made are related to overspending on wars that were not productive. And because they overspent they can't buy their way in legitimately. They will have to accept lack of control from afar....for the foreseeable future. That is a good thing for Latin America. The control issue with the USA has retarded growth and prosperity enormously in Latin America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francia_M%C3%A1rquez