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A national address by Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff on Sunday urged citizens to allow austerity measures to rebalance the economy, but drew noisy protests from disgruntled sectors of the population. Residents in a number of neighborhoods in Sao Paulo and other large Brazilian cities -- including Belo Horizonte, Rio de Janeiro and the capital, Brasilia -- could be heard banging pots and pans, with drivers flashing lights and sounding their vehicles' horns as the speech progressed. Some protested by shouting "Fora, Dilma!" -- (Dilma, out!) -- which also briefly turned into a globally trending hashtag on Twitter, as well as #VaiaDilma, or #JeerDilma. Calls for President Rousseff's impeachment have grown in recent weeks; a major rally called for March 15, has led some to fear a return to mass anti-government protests seen in 2013. Rousseff, Brazil's first female president, had begun her Sunday evening address on national television and radio by saluting fellow Brazilian women on International Women's Day, but soon turned to the troubling state of the country's economy: "We are weathering economic difficulties, but our foundations remain solid," Rousseff said.


http://en.haberler.com/brazil-discontent-as-rousseff-urges-patience-on-674243/

This was the 'best' article I could find in English on the subject.

It was insane... I was sleepy watching a movie and suddenly I started hearing everyone in my neighbourhood screaming from their balconies and windows. But as I knew Brazil was playing against Argentina on the Davis Cup, I though that it was something related to the match. "Wow, tennis is getting really big here! Cool!", I tought to myself, and then I resumed watching the movie. One hour or so later I started looking news sites as I always do, and all of them were mentioning the booing...

Can you imagine Obama speaking on TV and millions of people all over the US booing from their homes? Crazy, right?, but that's exactly what happened here. Maybe this was the 'largest booing in the world'?! Should we contact the Guinness book?!

I doubt that this woman will finish her mandate.

A small taste of what happened.

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They are screaming "Dilma out!".

Unfortunately I think she'll finish the mandate and maybe even be re-elected (unless the limit for consecutive public office has been passed).

Corruption in Brazil is so deeply ingrained in society and public institutions that I have no idea on how to end it. Add the extreme poverty and social disparities and we got ourselves a big problem.
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Dystopian Darkness wrote:They are screaming "Dilma out!".

Unfortunately I think she'll finish the mandate and maybe even be re-elected (unless the limit for consecutive public office has been passed).

Corruption in Brazil is so deeply ingrained in society and public institutions that I have no idea on how to end it. Add the extreme poverty and social disparities and we got ourselves a big problem.


But I think Dilma is in trouble exactly due to the extreme poverty and social disparities!!!
Because this economic crisis is affecting the poor/middle class a lot more than the upper class. I mean, most of those people screaming and banging pots and pans are not exactly 'rich'. Or do you think that the rich is concerned because the meat price has increased 10%?

When the Brazilian rich feel hopeless, that's what they do: http://www.wsj.com/articles/rich-brazilians-wary-of-government-look-abroad-1423182280. They don't waste time banging pots from their windows. Most rich people have the means to abandon the country with all their money in no more than 24 hours. But the poorer segments of society have no other option than to impeach Dilma if they want a better future for themselves and their offspring. That's why I think Dilma will fall... Last polls say that her approval rate is at 9%... Only a miracle can save her.
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But I think Dilma is in trouble exactly due to the extreme poverty and social disparities!!!
Because this economic crisis is affecting the poor/middle class a lot more than the upper class. I mean, most of those people screaming and banging pots and pans are not exactly 'rich'. Or do you think that the rich is concerned because the meat price has increased 10%?

No, but the social disparities in Brazil have always been high compared to the rest of the developed world - Dilma is not doing anything new, the former president Lula da Silva was just as bad if not worse (b sides being illiterate and ignorant), but that didn't stop him from being elected. I'm Portuguese and I have Brazilian friends, some things Brazilians do are similar to what we [Portuguese] do, and one of them is hating politicians, governments and presidents only to elect a supposedly "better" one in hope that things will get better.

When the Brazilian rich feel hopeless, that's what they do: http://www.wsj.com/articles/rich-brazilians-wary-of-government-look-abroad-1423182280. They don't waste time banging pots from their windows. Most rich people have the means to abandon the country with all their money in no more than 24 hours. But the poorer segments of society have no other option than to impeach Dilma if they want a better future for themselves and their offspring. That's why I think Dilma will fall... Last polls say that her approval rate is at 9%... Only a miracle can save her.


Yes she will fail, that's obvious, but the next president will do the same and the cycle goes on - Brazilians will hope for a better future and the next president will promise real efficient corrective measures, only to realize that this new president will not fulfil promises and fuck the people again.

Brazil has a problem with public corruption, poverty + social disparities and extremely high crime rates and murder rates - Have you ever seen pictures of a Brazilian prison? Jesus fucking Mary, completely overcrowded and the probability of recidivism among inmates, specially violent inmates, is pretty high - That's why many Brazilians now propose the death penalty (maximum sentence is 30 years) and lowering criminal responsibility age from 18 to 16 or 14. I'd like to go to Brazil despite the high prices, but foreign tourist have been robbed and killed in the streets of Rio de Janeiro, I don't know if I really want to go because I'm very paranoid
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some things Brazilians do are similar to what we [Portuguese] do, and one of them is hating politicians, governments and presidents only to elect a supposedly "better" one in hope that things will get better. (...) Brazilians will hope for a better future and the next president will promise real efficient corrective measures, only to realize that this new president will not fulfil promises and fuck the people again.


The definition of political insanity is to elect a socialist PM or president over and over again and expect that things will improve!
But I really doubt that that will be the case in Brazil. As it's happening in Portugal right now, there's a clear change of perception about what should be the role of the state, see: http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21645211-thatcherism-winning-adherents-niche-no-longer?zid=305&ah=417bd5664dc76da5d98af4f7a640fd8a.

Yes she will fail, that's obvious, but the next president will do the same and the cycle goes on


I didn't say that she will fail, I said that she will fall, either by impeachment or renouncement! Her approval rate is between 7-9% right now according to the government itself. The poor are watching their purchasing power vanish like sand slipping through the fingers, and they are not liking it at all. And you can't govern a country the size of Brazil without public support.
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So, what was the approval rate of the previous president?


Until now, no other president in the country's recent history had faced one-digit popularity ratings. Not even the one impeached in 1992, who was impeached when approaching 10% of support.

Using the analogy with Portugal, I'm 100% sure that if I interviewed the whole country the approval rate of our center-right government is lower than 10% (despite being much much better than the socialist party, but people are too illiterate to comprehend how stuff works)


I think you are being too pessimistic. But even if you are right, Portugal will keep improving consistently until the end of Passos Coelho mandate, what will prompt even the most stubborn to give in at some point; well, unless this people are self-destructive fools who hate their own country and want the worse for themselves (like the Greeks do), but I don't think that's the case. I remain confident about Portugal - for now.
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Until now, no other president in the country's recent history had faced one-digit popularity ratings. Not even the one impeached in 1992, who was impeached when approaching 10% of support.

Let's hope she gets impeached then, even though I don't think it will magically solve Brazil's problems
I think you are being too pessimistic. But even if you are right, Portugal will keep improving consistently until the end of Passos Coelho mandate, what will prompt even the most stubborn to give in at some point; well, unless this people are self-destructive fools who hate their own country and want the worse for themselves (like the Greeks do), but I don't think that's the case. I remain confident about Portugal - for now.

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In theory only 20% of the population voted for Passos Coelho because of the abstention rates - I'd say the approval is pretty low, but it is mostly due to ignorance, the party in power (PSD) is doing much better than the former one and some economical conjunctures have improved. No, we're not fantastically well but it could be worse. I'll be voting for Passos Coelho again in September because the alternative (socialist party) is worse
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No, we're not fantastically well but it could be worse. I'll be voting for Passos Coelho again in September because the alternative (socialist party) is worse


My parents just returned from Lisbon, and they told me that situation changed quite drastically this time, that the Portuguese are back at restaurants and stores - because in the worst of the crisis, you would only find foreign tourists at these places.

The country is on the right path, definitely returning to what it used to be previously.

And yes, Passos Coelho must win. I often avoid taking part in Portuguese elections, but this time I will vote too. I will try to convince my relatives to go too, I think I might get 4 or 5 votes for Passos Coelhos. The socialists can't ruin Portugal again!!!
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My parents just returned from Lisbon, and they told me that situation changed quite drastically this time, that the Portuguese are back at restaurants and stores - because in the worst of the crisis, you would only find foreign tourists at these places.

The country is on the right path, definitely returning to what it used to be previously.

And yes, Passos Coelho must win. I often avoid taking part in Portuguese elections, but this time I will vote too. I will try to convince my relatives to go too, I think I might get 4 or 5 votes for Passos Coelhos. The socialists can't ruin Portugal again!!!

I didn't know you were Portuguese (good to know) - I won't let the socialists ruin our country again - At least 5 of my friends of university will be voting PSD and I'll to the same - Regardless of mistakes made and things I don't agree, it's the lesser evil.

In the north I've always seen people in shops and restaurants
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