[ArthurTandy1]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/ ... s/#slide-1

[Unthinking Majority]

It also matters that Cuba has a far higher literacy rate than the US, and everyone in Cuba has healthcare.

Sanders doesn't want the US to become a communist dictatorship, he wants the US to not be the embarrassing joke it is right now where higher education is bought and healthcare is a mess.

[ArthurTandy1]

It also matters that Cuba has a far higher literacy rate than the US, and everyone in Cuba has healthcare.

EVIDENCE????????

Sanders doesn't want the US to become a communist dictatorship, he wants the US to not be the embarrassing joke it is right now where higher education is bought and healthcare is a mess.

Senior citizens have Medicare, the poor have Medicaid, military veterans have VA, and anyone without insurance can go to free community clinics which are all over the USA. You don't know beans

[XogGyux]

Senior citizens have Medicare, the poor have Medicaid, military veterans have VA, and anyone without insurance can go to free community clinics which are all over the USA. You don't know beans

LOL you don't know beans.

[Patrickov]

It also matters that Cuba has a far higher literacy rate than the US, and everyone in Cuba has healthcare.

Sanders doesn't want the US to become a communist dictatorship, he wants the US to not be the embarrassing joke it is right now where higher education is bought and healthcare is a mess.

The problem is, I will compare the price of "higher literacy rate" and "universal healthcare" if it means that we need to live under a communist dictatorship, where those in power can take away your freedom or even you life on a whim.

[Godstud]

Cuba, a country far poorer than the USA, has a comparable medical system, but it covers EVERYONE. That's why Bernie Sanders refers to it. It is also far more cost effective.

You don't need a Communist dictator to have good education and healthcare, @Patrickov. That's silly. Many democracies have great healthcare.

That you can claim medical in USA is free shows how ignorant you are on the topic.

Healthcare in the United States: The top five things you need to know
There is no universal healthcare. The U.S. government does not provide health benefits to citizens or visitors. Any time you get medical care, someone has to pay for it.

Healthcare is very expensive. According to a U.S. government website, if you break your leg, you could end up with a bill for $7,500. If you need to stay in the hospital for three days, it would probably cost about $30,000.
Most people in the U.S. have health insurance. Health insurance protects you from owing a lot of money to doctors or hospitals if you get sick or hurt. To get health insurance, you need to make regular payments (called “premiums”) to a health insurance company. In exchange, the company agrees to pay some, or all, of your medical bills. Learn more about health insurance.

You will get most of your care from your “primary care provider” (PCP). After you buy health insurance, you can choose a PCP who is part of your insurance company’s network. If you buy an MIT health insurance plan, you will choose a PCP at MIT Medical. Your new PCP could be a nurse practitioner or a physician. You will see your PCP when you need a physical exam or lab test, when you are sick, or if you need care for an ongoing condition, like diabetes or high blood pressure. Learn more about PCPs.

You will usually need an appointment to get medical care. If you want to see your PCP, you will need to call your PCP’s office to make an appointment. When you call, you need to explain why you need the appointment. If you are sick or hurt, you will get an appointment very soon. If you just need a routine physical exam, you might have to wait several weeks or even a month. Learn more about appointments.
https://medical.mit.edu/my-mit/internat ... ted-states

[Unthinking Majority]

The problem is, I will compare the price of "higher literacy rate" and "universal healthcare" if it means that we need to live under a communist dictatorship, where those in power can take away your freedom or even you life on a whim.

You don't need to have a communist dictatorship to have universal healthcare and education. You just need social programs, and you can look around Europe and elsewhere for that.

I'm not a fan of Cuba's repressive regime or their economic system. I am a fan of giving people education and healthcare.

[pugsville]

The problem is, I will compare the price of "higher literacy rate" and "universal healthcare" if it means that we need to live under a communist dictatorship, where those in power can take away your freedom or even you life on a whim.

many nations have these things without being a communist dictatorship. THE US spends twice the amount of most OECD countries for about half the results,

Socialism Works* (in some situations)

[Godstud]

Socialism Works* (in some situations)

Everything in moderation, works.

[ArthurTandy1]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/bernie-sanders-praise-fidel-castro-why-it-matters/#slide-1

The answer is: Yes, massive literacy programs instituted using the machinery of a tyranny are, indeed, a bad thing. For one thing, you can institute massive literacy programs without authoritarianism, just as you can build impressive highways without fascism or alleviate most poverty without collectivism. Just ask the United States, or any other capitalistic nation with wealth and high literacy rates.

Even then, Sanders is regurgitating Communist propaganda. Cuba already had the highest literacy rate in Latin America before the revolution, and it basically kept trending in the same direction as every other nation in the region. When Castro triumphantly entered Havana in 1958, he didn’t bring truckloads of books; he ordered thousands of arrests and summary executions. When Castro “came into office,” he canceled elections, terminated the free press, and turned Cuba into the island prison that still exists today

[late]

The answer is: Yes, massive literacy programs instituted using the machinery of a tyranny are, indeed, a bad thing. For one thing, you can institute massive literacy programs without authoritarianism, just as you can build impressive highways without fascism or alleviate most poverty without collectivism. Just ask the United States, or any other capitalistic nation with wealth and high literacy rates.

Even then, Sanders is regurgitating Communist propaganda. Cuba already had the highest literacy rate in Latin America before the revolution, and it basically kept trending in the same direction as every other nation in the region. When Castro triumphantly entered Havana in 1958, he didn’t bring truckloads of books; he ordered thousands of arrests and summary executions. When Castro “came into office,” he canceled elections, terminated the free press, and turned Cuba into the island prison that still exists today

Here's the situation, communism is dead. No one gives a f**k.

Your brainless babbling isn't going to help your cause one little bit...

As I've pointed out to you before, not only is Bernie not a commie, in Europe he'd be an inch from centrist... What he wants is what Europe has, and it works.

Our policy towards Cuba is dumb and crazy. More to the point, it's corrupt. Rich Cubans in Miami have been keeping our policy dumb and crazy for over half a century.

Two last points, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. European involvement has done more to reform Cuba than anything we've done.

Lastly, you ever wonder why the people of Cuba never kicked Castro to the curb? Because all Castro had to do is point at someplace like Guatemala. IOW, did they want America turning Cuba into a living hell. They didn't want that.

Big surprise...

[Stormsmith]

The answer is: Yes, massive literacy programs instituted using the machinery of a tyranny are, indeed, a bad thing.

Why ? What's going to happen?

[ArthurTandy1]

Here's the situation, communism is dead. No one gives a f**k.

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Really?? What the hell would you call North Korea? We are against Cuba because she was a Soviet satellite for 30 years during the Cold War and she let the USSR threaten our lives with nuclear missiles in 1962. Cuba fights wars all over the world to introduce Communism. She invaded numerous places in Africa and Latin America. Either you are ignorant or you just lie. Every nation in Europe has a Communist Party and so does China. DEAD?? you are insane.

[late]

Really?? What the hell would you call North Korea? We are against Cuba because she was a Soviet satellite for 30 years during the Cold War and she let the USSR threaten our lives with nuclear missiles in 1962. Cuba fights wars all over the world to introduce Communism. She invaded numerous places in Africa and Latin America. Either you are ignorant or you just lie. Every nation in Europe has a Communist Party and so does China. DEAD?? you are insane.

NK has a dictator. The country would have failed without constant help from China. It may be the least communist country on Earth...

This is like talking to a cartoon, you don't know anything.

The Cold War is over, without Soviet money, Cuba doesn't do much abroad these days. It's a poor country, without Soviet money, they are quite limited.

"She let the USSR threaten our lives"? Castro was little more than a puppet..

You're worse than I thought, you not only don't understand democracy, you hate it. Forming parties that reflect their thinking is what people in democracies do.

[ArthurTandy1]

It also matters that Cuba has a far higher literacy rate than the US

WRONG

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-in ... /Education

Cuba's literacy rate is 97%. USA is 99%

[Godstud]

No. He's not wrong, You are, @ArthurTandy1.

A 2019 report by the National Center for Education Statistics determined that mid to high literacy in the United States is 95% with 21% of American adults categorized as having "low level English literacy," including 4.1% classified as "functionally illiterate" and an additional 4% that could not participate.
https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2019/2019179.pdf

Of course, why listen to the U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, when you can just pull random shit off the internet.

[wat0n]

Functionally illiterate people often count as "literate" in a binary (literate-not literate) definition. Of course that very concept exists precisely because more developed countries need to distinguish between a person who literally can't read and a person who can read but not understand whatever he's reading.

[late]

Functionally illiterate people often count as "literate" in a binary (literate-not literate) definition. Of course that very concept exists precisely because more developed countries need to distinguish between a person who literally can't read and a person who can read but not understand whatever he's reading.

Which varies from country to country.

In the 1970s, much of rural New England had a literacy rate of 70% (or less), and the standards of what constituted literacy were low at the time. I had a job that had me working in small towns, and I got to see it up close.

Back then, the Manchester Union Leader was the big NH paper. They got businesses to put their paper out on the sidewalk so everyone would see them. The lunatic that owned it, Loeb, had his editorial on the front page. The point of the editorial would be in red ink, again, so you couldn't miss it. Nuke Hanoi was one of his favorites. There were a lot of marginally literate guys that loved it.

Even in cities, the poor areas often have wretched schools.

So, sure, we have a high literacy rate, just don't kick the tires...

[Rugoz]

Still waiting for left-wing dimwits to emigrate to Cuba en masse, because quality of life is so great there.

[Godstud]

@Rugoz Nice strawman. No one is saying that.