Hindsite wrote:The only thing I would add is that they don't want a Jewish state. They believe the Jews took over their land and they want to destroy the Jews. They have often promised to drive the Jews into the Sea.
You are conflating a few different ideas all into one. Let's assume for the sake of argument that as you say;
The only thing I would add is that they don't want a Jewish state.
You make a couple errors in logic, namely is a ''Jewish State'' something really good for Jews, for other non-Jew (Christian and Muslim) residents of the Holy Land, or for the region and the world?
It already exists so there is that, but just because something exists does not necessarily make it right to do so. In other words, you'd have to defend logically the alleged right for the political entity known as Israel to exist, just as Poles once argued for Poland to exist and Irish for Ireland.
But you went further and said that;
They believe the Jews took over their land and they want to destroy the Jews.
You say that ''They'' (who are ''they''?) believe the Jews took over their land, and that's right, the Jews did. You'd have to make a logical case that the people there before Jewish immigration to the Holy Land did not have a natural right to the land they worked and lived upon before Israel's existence in 1948, Christians and Muslims and even a few Jews and Samaritans, and also did not and do not have the right like other peoples to self-government and sovereignty.
Likewise, you would have to prove that ''they'' want to ''destroy the Jews'' and also prove that this is the same thing as ending the State of Israel, even though genocides rarely occur historically speaking when national sovereignty ends. Otherwise what you say is just thoughtless inflammatory rhetoric.
Just as you say here;
They have often promised to drive the Jews into the Sea
Who is this ''they'', and do they represent all the non-Jewish residents of the Holy Land? Do you have a source for this?
In fact, i'll go further;
what is it that you would like to see come out of this situation for non-Jewish residents of the Holy Land, you know, the Christians who have been there for over 20 centuries and who are chiefly descendants of the Israelites/Jews who followed Christ? Do they not have a better claim to be the Israel that has sovereignty over the Holy Land, as they follow Christ the true ''King of the Jews''?
Let me read what you personally would like to see, in relation to Israel and non-Jews within the Holy Land and neighboring countries, i'm curious.
Is your whole geopolitical thinking based on a theological theory, for which you're willing to see people live or die? Have good relations with some countries while not with others, based on this theory?
But man is a fickle and disreputable creature and perhaps, like a chess-player, is interested in the process of attaining his goal rather than the goal itself.