A question for you Buzz? has your grandmother ever lived in Israel? you lived in Israel?
I ask this because I see quite a pattern with the anti zionists
"We critisize you alot because you are suposed to know better! you sufferd through the holocoust!"
Or rather yet, here's something Taliz wrote in another topic
I may pretty harsh in my criticism, but that is because I have high expectations for what Israel could be, instead of what it is. While on the Palestinian side I'm probably not as harsh as I should be, but I don't have such high expectation for them by way of how the other Arab/Islamic states have turned out (poor human rights, poor laws, terrible leadership, religious extremism, need I say more).
See now, that's the thing you europeans will quite never understand.
The middle east is -not- like Europe, it's -not- like America. It's easy to question our morals when you live comfortably, when you don't fear for your life, but the sad fact is that we can't afford these luxerius, we can't afford to be too naive because they are -so- many, and we are so little. you honestly believe the arab world is just made of poor wittle farmers who suffer under the Israeli heel? look around you! when they aren't busy trying to kill us, they are busy killing each -other-! it's not that I think the arab people are violent, but their culture as of now sure is! So yes, we occupy the palistinans, yes, we threaten war against Iran, but in this given situasion, you honestly think -your- people would have done better?
You have good intentions Buzz, but you could use -alot- more humility.
You don't hold any "facts". Just random articles you pieced together from Wikipedia
You don't have the "Truth". you are just some dude from Canada who never even visited here and get an actual insight about what happens.
Try this, admit that maybe you -don't- have all the answers, book a trip to israel, visit the settlements, piss off some soldiers, get -both- sides of the story, come back, and tell us what you think
Oh, and just so you know, I lived here all my life, I studied this subject -riogusly- I know both palistinans and israelis, and I -still- don't know what the hell can be done here, how it can this shitstorm be fixed.