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By Zamuel
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Oxymoron wrote:Donkeys and Sand are not considered military targets in Israel, I know its difficult to comprehend as things are different in Caveastan.

I think since that airbase went up in smoke the Syrians/Iranians will be tiptoeing very carefully when within range of the Israelis.

What's the body count up to on those Hamas assholes daring to show their faces at the Palestinian protests?

Zam
By skinster
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Oxymoron wrote:Donkeys and Sand are not considered military targets in Israel, I know its difficult to comprehend as things are different in Caveastan.


Israeli authorities have a tendency of portraying themselves as invincible and (try to) censor whenever they are attacked. I'm guessing because of that, you missed the news.





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By Oxymoron
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skinster wrote:Israeli authorities have a tendency of portraying themselves as invincible and (try to) censor whenever they are attacked. I'm guessing because of that, you missed the news.







:lol: Such trusty worthy sources :lol:
By Decky
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I wish we had won the 100 years war. We could have put an end to the French once and for all. Imagine what a better world it would be without them.
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By Ter
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US-led strike hits government targets in Syria – state media

US-led coalition warplanes have bombed several Syrian army positions in the eastern Syrian province of Deir ez-Zor, state media outlet SANA reports, citing a military source.

The attack took place shortly after midnight on Thursday. SANA reported that the US-led coalition aircraft inflicted limited material damage and no casualties. The airstrikes, which hit near the city of Al-Bukamal, were reportedly coordinated with anti-government militants.

Earlier, Lebanon’s Hezbollah group, an ally of the Syrian forces in the fight with Islamic State (IS, former ISIS/ISIL) said the coalition jets targeted two Syrian army outposts, including an energy installation near the Iraqi border.
The area has seen rapid advances by the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) pushing against IS militants near Al-Bukamal and moving towards the eastern bank of the Euphrates River.

Last week, the SDF announced they took control over a former IS base on the Euphrates River near the Syrian-Iraqi border, moving closer to territory controlled by the Syrian government.

Syria has recently been subjected to massive bombardment campaigns by another US ally, Israel, which in early May sent 28 fighter jets that fired some 60 air-to-surface missiles into Syrian territory against what Tel-Aviv claimed were targets belonging to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Israel said that its largest attack in years was a response to Iran’s launching an attack on the Israeli-controlled part of the occupied Golan Heights from Syria. The Syrian air defenses retaliated, allegedly firing some 100 missiles at Israeli warplanes.
Pentagon spokesman Captain Bill Urban said the US military is not aware of any coalition-led operation against the Syrian government.

"We have no operational reporting of a US-led coalition strike against pro-Syrian regime targets or forces," Urban told Reuters.

However, Dave Lindorff, the founding editor of the news site ‘This Can’t Be Happening,’ told RT that the attack seems to follow the same objective Washington has long pursued, which is to prop the rebels against the Syrian government.

“We know the US has been supporting and arming elements of rebels against Assad and that is what they are really up to in Syria. It would not be surprising if they saw Syrian forces offering some threat to elements that the US is supporting that they would continue the policy of attacking Syrians,” Lindorff said.

US-led forces have been actively engaged in the region in the past few years and repeatedly hit Syrian army positions here, former US diplomat Jim Jatras reminded.

“It’s certainly not the first time. We have many instances where US planes or coalition planes have hit Syrian government or allied forces in eastern Syria, especially,” Jatras said. Referring to the US-led strikes in September 2016 that killed 60 Syrian troops near the city of Deir ez-Zor, he said that the attack “almost seemed coordinated with ISIS attacks on Syrian positions.” The coalition then claimed it had no intention of targeting Syrian soldiers, saying it mistook them for ISIS fighters.
Speaking of the chances of a tit-for-tat response from the Syrian forces, Jatras said that Damascus would not likely fall for provocation.

“I don’t think there’re any expectations they come back and target American or coalition forces. It seems that what they generally have done in the past is to stick to their game plan,” Jatras said, arguing that instead of giving the US-led forces a pretext for a larger attack, the Syrian forces would continue to try to clean up the area in the east from terrorists.

“I’m not sure that’s going to stop them from reaching their objectives in this part of the country,” he said.

The US administration's policy in the region has been aimed at escalation and military confrontation, Brian Becker, National Coordinator of the ANSWER Coalition, said, pointing to the increasingly hawkish mood in the Trump cabinet, staffed with the likes of National Security Adviser John Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

“I think the US, the Pentagon, the Trump administration and the Israeli government have the same solution which is to intensify military pressure on all of these entities that they consider to be part of the resistance front against plans for hegemony in the region,” Becker told RT.

“That would include Iran, that would include the Syrian government because it’s survived, Hezbollah, which has been getting stronger, and Lebanon.”

https://www.rt.com/news/427601-us-coali ... ike-syria/

As long as Asad wishes to keep Iran's presence in Syria, this war will never end.
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By Zamuel
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BEIRUT —https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAxMrSx?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare

Report: Suspected Israeli strike targets Hezbollah in Syria - Associated Press - 5/25/18.

A Syrian war-monitoring group says suspected Israeli strikes hit a military base overnight in central Syria that houses Lebanon's militant Hezbollah group alongside other factions allied with the government in Damascus. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Friday that it's not clear if there are any casualties in the strikes on the Dabaa air base in central Homs province. The base is north of the town of al-Qusair that Hezbollah captured in 2013 from rebels, a turning point in the group's role in the Syrian war.

Syria's state media reported late Thursday that a military base in central Syria came under attack from "enemy" fire. It said Syrian air defenses responded.
Hezbollah and Iran's role in Syria has alarmed Israel and the United States, which have threatened action
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No rest for the wicked, it seems.

Zam :eek:
By Atlantis
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Even if we take the benign view that the US didn't deliberately create ISIS and Al Qaeda, there is no way around the fact that these organisations wouldn't exist without US support.

Syria - U.S. Moves To Protect Al-Qaeda And ISIS in Daraa

May 26, 2018
The Syrian government and its Russian ally plan to clean up the southwest region of Syria around the city of Daraa. The move should open the M5 highway, Syria's lifeline, between Damascus and Jordan and secure the border with Jordan as well as the demarcation line with the Israel occupied Golan Heights.

The operation was supposed to start in a day or two, but the U.S. has now threatened to intervene. As the southwest Daraa governorate is infested with a large Islamic State (ISIS) group as well as al-Qaeda and associated groups the U.S.move must be interpreted as protection for these terrorists.

On July 7 2017 The U.S, Russia and Jordan agreed to set up a de-escalation zone in southwest Syria. The parameters were not publicized and the implementation lagged. Russia had offered to let its military police supervise the zone but the U.S. rejected that. The opening of the important M5 highway to Jordan which was originally part of the plan did likewise not happen. The ceasefire in the region was broken several times. There was also infighting between ISIS and al-Qaeda.

In November 2017 the presidents of the United States and Russia met and agreed to a Memorandum of Principals which covered southwest Syria. The memorandum was not published.

The neo-conservatives at the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) disliked the agreement. It headlined Southern Syria Deal Fails to Constrain Iran, al Qaeda. Israel had demanded that no groups associated with Iran should come near the zone, but no such rule was agreed upon. ISW also noted:

Al Qaeda has exploited the ‘de-escalation zone’ to develop a new durable safe haven along the Syrian-Jordanian border.

Neither al-Qaeda nor the Islamic State are covered by the de-escalation and ceasefire agreement. UN Security Council resolutions 2249 and 2254 demand that all UN members fight Al Qaeda, ISIS and individuals and groups associate with them. It calls upon UN member states "to eradicate the safe haven they have established over significant parts of Syria".

At that time ISW published a map of southwest Syria which shows the strategic positions taken by ISIS (grey), al-Qaeda (brown) and aligned groups (light brown):

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In December 2017 the U.S. stopped payments to "rebels" in the south west. Some of the groups, including al-Qaeda, receive money, weapons and fire support from Israel.

In April 2018 ISW published a new version of its map of the area. Amusingly al-Qaeda had vanished from it:

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Over the last days Syrian helicopters have dropped leaflets over "rebel" held towns in the western part of the rebel held areas. They demand that the rebels give up fighting and reconcile with the Syrian government.

The Iranian ambassador to Jordan Mojtaba Ferdowsi-pour publicly declared that Iran has no role in any military operation in south of Syria. He added:

'After ending its mission in Syria, Iran will not remain in Syria and whenever Syrian government ask us, Iran will leave the country.'

It is obvious that the Syrian government and its Russian allies have all rights to fight ISIS and al-Qaeda independent of any de-escalation agreement. The UNSC resolutions even demand that. But the U.S. thinks different.

Last night the U.S. State Department published this threat:

The United States is concerned by reports of an impending Assad regime operation in southwest Syria within the boundaries of the de-escalation zone negotiated between the United States, Jordan, and the Russian Federation last year and reaffirmed between Presidents Trump and Putin in Da Nang, Vietnam in November. The United States remains committed to maintaining the stability of the southwest de-escalation zone and to the ceasefire underpinning it. We also caution the Syrian regime against any actions that risk broadening the conflict or jeopardize the ceasefire. As a guarantor of this de-escalation area with Russia and Jordan, the United States will take firm and appropriate measures in response to Assad regime violations.
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One wonders what "firm and appropriate measures" the U.S. has planned for. Strong words? Cruise missile attacks? Nukes?

I have not seen any reaction yet from the Syrian or Russian side.
By Rich
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Ter wrote:As long as Asad wishes to keep Iran's presence in Syria, this war will never end.

Israel through its most devoted Republican US Congress members chose to keep Assad in power. When Obama was considering whether to use the false flag attack as cover for bombing Assad in 2013, the Republicans made it clear that they would hang Obama out to dry if he attacked Syria. Of course Assad can't get rid of Iran. Israel knows it and Israel knew it, when they allowed Assad to come back from the dead.

For at least two and half years from early 2013 to Russian entry, Assad hung on by a thread. An allied bombing campaign or even a no fly zone would have seen Assad swept away. Iran moved very tentatively at first. Iran only committed significant forces when it had 100% confirmation that it had Israel's permission to save Assad. Same with Russia, Russia only entered the conflict once it knew it has Israel's approval to save Assad. Israel didn't want a Sunni Muslim victory unless it was the most extreme of extreme Sunni Muslim terorists like Al Qaeda and ISIS.
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By Zamuel
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4 Russian Military Personnel were killed and 3 more wounded in a rebel attack on an artillery battery in eastern Syria's Deir al-Zor province.

It seems like the rebels can successfully attack pretty much anywhere and at anytime.

Zam ;)
By Downside
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Zamuel wrote:4 Russian Military Personnel were killed and 3 more wounded in a rebel attack on an artillery battery in eastern Syria's Deir al-Zor province.

It seems like the rebels can successfully attack pretty much anywhere and at anytime.

Zam ;)


So young

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By UD
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Assad regime has given two million Shia from Iran and Lebanon, citizenship in a further attempt to prevent Sunni refugees from returning.


Assad Grants Citizenship to Two Million Shiites to Complete Demographic Change


Assad Grants Citizenship to Two Million Shiites to Complete Demographic Change
Lebanese An-Nahar newspaper reported that the Assad regime has naturalized about two million Shiites from Iran and Lebanon with the aim of preventing millions of displaced persons and refugees from returning home.

The newspaper on Wednesday said that this move is designed to serve the policy of "demographic change that is underway in full swing or by the controversial Law No. 10."

The newspaper considered that "the Iranian settlement in Syria today represents the gravest threat to the region," describing the issue of naturalization as "extremely dangerous.”

"Bashar al-Assad has given about two million ID cards to Iranians and members of the militias belonging to the Quds Force, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and their families, especially the Hezbollah militias," the paper quoted diplomats as saying.

The issue was not limited to the granting of identity cards to those militias, but rather to facilitate their resentment in the areas that were emptied of their indigenous population such as eastern Ghouta, Damascus suburbs, Homs, Hama and Aleppo.

A large number of officials of the Iranian regime have recently obtained Syrian ID cards to dodge the US sanctions imposed, according to the newspaper. (Source: Syrian Coalition’s Media Department)



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