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By skinster
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:Iran got humiliated yesterday now lets see if they do something or they are too scared :lol:


Looks more like Israel was humiliated since the rules of engagement changed and Syria lobbed a bunch of missiles back at Israel after it attacked Syria (for the 4th time this month). I didn't read anything about Syrians running into bunkers, but saw the same happened for Israeli settlers in Syria's Golan Heights.
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skinster wrote:Looks more like Israel was humiliated since the rules of engagement changed and Syria lobbed a bunch of missiles back at Israel after it attacked Syria (for the 4th time this month). I didn't read anything about Syrians running into bunkers, but saw the same happened for Israeli settlers in Syria's Golan Heights.


Most of their Missiles didnt even hit Israeli territory

epic fail :lol:

Well Syrians dont have bukers in any case they will be dead because the government dont give a fuck about their lives
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By ExpectBro
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I think this conflict where each of country tries to find interests despite the horror would not be possible before ... no demonstrations, no meeting. I wonder if this is the disappointment of capitalism system, you want more always more ...
By Atlantis
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Sivad wrote:funniest Tucker Carlson interview ever:


God, I can't see these people without going through the roof. There is nothing as evil as US imperialists. Most people in this world trust Putin more than Trump. US imperialists are more evil than Hitler. All that lying makes me sick. Anybody opposing US imperialism is good. If Putin and Assad oppose US imperialism, then they are on the good side.
By Sivad
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Atlantis wrote: Anybody opposing US imperialism is good. If Putin and Assad oppose US imperialism, then they are on the good side.


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By skinster
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:Most of their Missiles didnt even hit Israeli territory

epic fail :lol:


Actually the Iron Dome only intercepted 4 of the missiles and failed to prevent another 16 coming through, according to an IOF military spokesman.

You're right, they didn't hit Israeli territory, since the Golan Heights isn't Israeli territory, but that's where the missiles hit.

I'm not sure where the epic fail is or why you're war-mongering, since if this escalates you're likely to be used as a pawn in this shit game, or did you forget that part and assume Israel is all-powerful? Hezbollah has already shown that Israel is not.
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By Ter
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skinster wrote:Actually the Iron Dome only intercepted 4 of the missiles and failed to prevent another 16 coming through, according to an IOF military spokesman.

You're right, they didn't hit Israeli territory, since the Golan Heights isn't Israeli territory, but that's where the missiles hit.

Source ? I ask because the reports I saw mention that 16 rockets fell in Syria.

Since the Golan Heights have been annexed since 1982, the Israelis call it Israeli territory.

skinster wrote:I'm not sure where the epic fail is or why you're war-mongering

Iran needs to be removed from Syria because they have pledged to destroy Israel.
skinster wrote: did you forget that part and assume Israel is all-powerful? Hezbollah has already shown that Israel is not.

Israel is all powerful.
They made tactical mistakes in 2006 but to call it a Hezbollah victory is exaggerated.
Those mistakes will not be repeated in the coming war. Israel is ready.
By skinster
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Ter wrote:Source ? I ask because the reports I saw mention that 16 rockets fell in Syria.


I told you the source in the post you quoted. If you don't trust the Israeli military spokesman, maybe try some Israeli media.

Yes, 16 of the 20 missiles were not intercepted by the apparently unpenetrable Iron Dome, so you're halfway there on your own.

And thanks also for referring to the Golan Heights as "Syria". Look at you Ter, you're progressing. :D

Since the Golan Heights have been annexed since 1982, the Israelis call it Israeli territory.


Yes I know the Israelis have a tendency of saying the opposite of what is true. Still, the rest of the world disagrees with Israel.

Iran needs to be removed from Syria because they have pledged to destroy Israel.


Actually it's the other way around. Israel has repeatedly threatened to destroy Iran, while Iran only stated zionism as an ideology needs to be erased from history; a fair comment. Still, Iran has done nothing to threaten Israel's existence, except for existing.

Israel is all powerful.


If this is true, why didn't Israel continue to attack Syria after missiles were returned on Wednesday?

They made tactical mistakes in 2006 but to call it a Hezbollah victory is exaggerated.
Those mistakes will not be repeated in the coming war. Israel is ready.


While I agree the Hezbollah victory is exaggerated, it isn't in the sense of proving that Israel is not all-powerful like it suggests, since it is considered it lost to a guerilla army when fighting war on Lebanon. You are stupid if you think Israel won't get a number of casualties in the next war, since the people they make war on have had the few decades of training in how to fight Israeli power, particularly those in Syria who've managed to send back armies belonging to the world's biggest powers. When powers play with fire, there is a pattern of them getting burned. Even Israeli intelligence people are now talking negatively of further wars.
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By One Degree
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Anti missile systems only attack missiles on a harmful trajectory. There was no reason for the iron dome to intercept the other 16 missiles. This is the same reason why such systems did not attack North Korean launches.
The Israeli attacks on Syria also indicate that Russia and Syria were lying about the number of US/ally missiles they intercepted. I believe they intercepted some, but it appears their defensive systems are no match for Israeli or US attacks.
By skinster
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:lol:

Jebus crisps. The other missiles caused a lot of damage to Israeli military infrastructure in the Golan Heights.

You really don't have to respond to every thread since you know so little about so much. Thanks in advance.
By annatar1914
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One Degree wrote:Anti missile systems only attack missiles on a harmful trajectory. There was no reason for the iron dome to intercept the other 16 missiles. This is the same reason why such systems did not attack North Korean launches.
The Israeli attacks on Syria also indicate that Russia and Syria were lying about the number of US/ally missiles they intercepted. I believe they intercepted some, but it appears their defensive systems are no match for Israeli or US attacks.


What? Your conclusion in no way follows from the presented evidence.
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:They lied about the number of casualties they claimed that "only 3" Syrian soldiers died and no Iranians

https://www.rferl.org/a/monitor-says-42 ... 22951.html


One cannot say for sure who is lying and who is not, in the fog of war. I suspect in order to burnish it's image of being military masters, that the IDF is lying somewhat.

I'm no fan of Israel, of the Islamic Republic of Iran, or of Baathist Syria, my specific concern in the region is the Middle East's native Christians and seeing to it that they are not exterminated or persecuted by any side. So, I'm pretty objective in my analysis, aside from my Socialism which I believe is also objective and draws conclusions informed from that Socio-Economic science which studies these matters.

I do see President Assad as the legal and legitimate executive of the Syrian Government, which thus has sovereign rights over it's own territory, as much as Israel has on it's territory. Foreign/Imperialist forces that are uninvited by that sovereign government including Jihadist mercenaries need to leave Syria.

Then the Syrian people can determine their own destiny without interference.
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By Zamuel
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annatar1914 wrote:Foreign/Imperialist forces that are uninvited by that sovereign government including Jihadist mercenaries need to leave Syria. Then the Syrian people can determine their own destiny without interference.

So it's OK for Assad to employ mercenary assistance, but the rebels can't … I doubt that's gonna happen. You want'a withdraw the Russians, withdraw the Iranians, and withdraw whatever other foreign fighters he's employing … ? I think the rebels will jump at the chance for that rumble. And Assad will undoubtedly start rolling out the barrel bombs again.

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Get Real.

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By skinster
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The Russians and Iranians were invited to Syria to help defend against the illegal aggression of the various countries fighting war on Syria. Get real.

British Analyst to ST: Syria’s Military Response to Israeli Aggression Demonstrates How Best to Deal with a Bully
British publisher and editor of "Politics First" Magazine, Dr. Marcus Papadopoulos has asserted that Syria’s military response to Israeli aggression in the early hours of May 10th demonstrates how best to deal with a bully, indicating that Israel is looking to provoke a war with Syria and Iran, in the hope that this would bring about a direct military confrontation between America, on the one hand, and Syria and Iran, on the other hand.

He suspects that the West and their Islamist-Wahhabist terrorists’ allies, such as the White Helmets, will allege that the Syrian Government has used chemical weapons when the Syrian military turns its sights firmly on liberating Idlib.

In an interview with the Syriatrimes e-newspaper, the British editor said: “The Israeli attack on Syria during the early hours of Thursday 10 May demonstrates Israel's intransigence on illegally attacking a sovereign country without approval by the United Nations Security Council. And I fully support Syria's right to defend itself.”

“Enough is enough with Israeli aggression, provocations and disregard for international law,” Dr. Papadopoulos added, affirming that Israeli attacks against Syria will continue unabated.

He made it clear that Israel's conduct is that of a rogue country . “A rogue country that has a blank cheque from the most powerful country on earth, the United States. Furthermore, emboldened by the US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal, together with the presence in the White House of one of the most pro-Israeli presidents in history, Israel is looking to provoke a war with Syria and Iran, in the hope that this would bring about a direct military confrontation between America, on the one hand, and Syria and Iran, on the other hand, leading to the destruction of the latter two countries and the imposition of pro-Western, compliant governments in Damascus and Tehran.”

The political analyst referred to Israel’s support for terrorist organizations in Syria by saying: “ Al-Qaeda and ISIS are, literally, just a stone’s throw away from Israeli forces in the occupied Golan. Yet, not only has Israel never attacked those terrorist groups but it also treats their wounded fighters. If the US and the UK had a free and independent media, then Israel would be asked to explain itself before the rest of the world.

US direct involvement in Syria
Asked about US involvement in the war in Syria, Dr. Papadopoulos replied: “ For all of his faults, at least Barack Obama did not directly involve America in the Syrian conflict (and also to Mr. Obama's credit is that the Israelis and the Saudis were glad to see Mr. Obama leave office last year). Conversely, under Donald Trump, America has now become directly involved in Syria, through having struck the country with cruise missiles on two occasions. The precedent for direct American involvement in Syria was set last April and because they were allowed to get away with this attack, they were then able to strike again at Syria this April.”

He went on to say: “I suspect that once the Syrian military turns its sights firmly on liberating Idlib, then this is when the West and their Islamist-Wahhabist terrorists allies, such as the White Helmets, will allege that the Syrian Government has used chemical weapons. And what will follow that allegation is all too predictable - a Western media frenzy, unsupported arguments by Washington and London, followed by a cruise missile attack against Syria by the Americans and the British (and possibly the French, too).”

The British analyst underlined that Damascus, Moscow and Tehran are actively and successfully resisting the ambitions of Washington in Syria. But he called on Russia to adopt a different approach towards Israel.

British taxpayers' money being spent on terrorists in Syria
Concerning the UK persistence with accusing the Syrian government of producing chemical weapons at research facilities, Dr. Papadopoulos said: “the UK is persisting with this argument as a means to maintaining the demonization of President Bashar al-Assad and thereby defending not only British support to the groups fighting against the Syrian Government but also justifying the American-French-British cruise missile attack against Syria this April.

“I am infuriated and deeply frustrated that Britain is one of the main supporters of the various Islamist-Wahhabist terrorist groups in Syria. By being so, the UK has positioned itself as an enemy to the secular, multi-cultural and inter-faith country that is Syria. But then, having said that, Britain has a long history of working with radical Islam; alas, it is of no surprise, whatsoever, who the British are backing in the Syrian conflict,” he said.

Dr. Papadopoulos underscored that most British parliamentarians take as gospel the word of Theresa May, Boris Johnson and Gavin Williamson because their understand of Syria is shockingly woeful. “Indeed, their knowledge of international affairs in general is, more or less, confined to watching Sky News or BBC News or reading The Times or The Guardian. It is a depressing state of affairs at Westminster but also a dangerous one; after all, British taxpayers' money is being spent by the UK Government on terrorist groups in Syria who, in ideological terms, are the very same people who carried out the heinous terrorist attacks in Britain in 2005 and in 2017.”
http://www.syriatimes.sy/index.php/edit ... th-a-bully
By Atlantis
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Zamuel wrote:So it's OK for Assad to employ mercenary assistance, but the rebels can't … I doubt that's gonna happen. You want'a withdraw the Russians, withdraw the Iranians, and withdraw whatever other foreign fighters he's employing … ? I think the rebels will jump at the chance for that rumble. And Assad will undoubtedly start rolling out the barrel bombs again.


Let's make a deal, Zam!

The Yankee imperialists leave occupied Germany and the Russians leave Syria.

Deal done? :excited:
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Syria is a vassal of russia its not a sovereign country anymore since 2015

and the fact that Syia "invited" Iran and Russia dosent matter its not like Syrians ever had a chance of choosing their leadership
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By Zamuel
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skinster wrote:The Russians and Iranians were invited to Syria to help defend against the illegal aggression of the various countries fighting war on Syria. Get real.

Yes, just as the Russian's were invited to invade Afghanistan by their political puppets. That regime failed and Assad will too. America can afford to be patient. We don't want puppet states. We want stable democracy. Has Turkey become a US puppet? Has Saudi Arabia? Kuwait? Qatar? We are committed to preventing the spread of extremist oppression in Africa and the ME. Assad is a pimple, with a little care that problem will heal itself. Iran is an infection that is trying to spread, containing that problem may require more active measures. Antiseptic has been applied and we'll see how effective it is. Russia may be a stabilizing influence at the moment. A scab on the pimple while it heals itself. Wait and see.

Zam
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By Zamuel
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Atlantis wrote:Let's make a deal, Zam! The Yankee imperialists leave occupied Germany and the Russians leave Syria. Deal done? :excited:

Sure Just as soon as you assassinate Putin.

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