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#14950822
Ter wrote:Once again, the Iranians were caught with their terrorist practices.
This time there is no denying it.


:D

The Iranian governmeent denied the attack that didn't take place and according to your article, wants to speak to France about what its being accused of, which obviously are the actions of someone guilty for something that didn't happen. Your desperation in demonizing Iran reeks. We are all aware of the neocon plan to do to Iran what it did to Iraq, Libya and Syria. It's not going to happen.
#14950904
skinster wrote:The Iranian governmeent denied the attack that didn't take place and according to your article, wants to speak to France about what its being accused of, which obviously are the actions of someone guilty for something that didn't happen.

If Belgium, France and Germany act simultaneously to thwart the bombing plot, find explosives, the arrested couple confessed about receiving it from the Iranian "diplomat" stationed in Austria, arrest the diplomat-master terrorist, and take punitive action against Iran, there is no denying the evil intention of Iran. Not for one second. They were caught with their pants down.

skinster wrote: Your desperation in demonizing Iran reeks

Iran does not need demonizing, they do it to themselves with their aggressive attitude against their neighbours in the region, and with their threats.

skinster wrote:We are all aware of the neocon plan to do to Iran what it did to Iraq, Libya and Syria. It's not going to happen

They might not be attacked militarily (so far), but economical attack has started.
It will be interesting to see :excited:
#14951130
Igor Antunov wrote:I find it sad (but not surprising) that France is Towing the US neocon/zionist propaganda line regarding Iran. Just more proof that western Europeans aren't fit to rule themselves. Slavs should take over all affairs.


I rather be ruled by Arab, than a Slav. This ain't planet of the apes yet.
#14951364
Ter wrote:If Belgium, France and Germany act simultaneously to thwart the bombing plot, find explosives, the arrested couple confessed about receiving it from the Iranian "diplomat" stationed in Austria, arrest the diplomat-master terrorist, and take punitive action against Iran, there is no denying the evil intention of Iran. Not for one second. They were caught with their pants down.


You need evidence for being "caught" and as usual, you present none..

Iran does not need demonizing, they do it to themselves with their aggressive attitude against their neighbours in the region, and with their threats.


You spelt Israel wrong. :D

But I would add 'actions' along with "their threats"

They might not be attacked militarily (so far), but economical attack has started.
It will be interesting to see :excited:


I guess you missed the part of sanctions on Iran that have been ongoing for ages.

Igor Antunov wrote:I find it sad (but not surprising) that France is Towing the US neocon/zionist propaganda line regarding Iran.


This has always been the case, except the part where France opposed war on Iraq.
#14953206
US Senate approves 2 bills sanctioning Hezbollah

One of the draft laws targets Lebanese terror group’s use of human shields while other penalizes those who fund or provide it support

The US Senate passed two measures targeting Hezbollah by sanctioning its funders and supporters, as well as those who assist in the Lebanese terror group’s using civilians as human shields.

Both bills were approved Thursday with bipartisan sponsorship.

The human shields bill, called the Sanctioning the Use of Civilians as Defenseless Shields Act, also condemns Hamas, the Gaza-based terror group, for the practice. The measure would impose sanctions on members of Hamas and Hezbollah who use civilians as human shields, as well as agencies of states that aid the groups in doing so. It will now be headed to the House of Representatives for a vote.

The bill sanctioning funders or those who provide resources to Hezbollah, called the Hizballah International Financing Prevention Amendments Act of 2017, imposes sanctions on government entities that support the group’s armed wing. It also sanctions companies or individuals who aid Hezbollah’s fundraising or recruitment, as well as imposing sanctions on the terror group itself. And it mandates reporting and oversight on support of Hezbollah.

The bill, which was passed by the House last month, “strengthens and expands the scope of economic and financial sanctions imposed by previous legislation,” according to a news release from AIPAC, the pro-Israel lobby. The bill now awaits US President Donald Trump’s signature.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-senate ... hezbollah/

Yet another reason to sanction Iran, the sponsor of terror.
#14953291
Pants-of-dog wrote:The West should leave Iran alone. The blowback from the 1953 coup is still one if the reasons for anti-western attitudes in the region.

Sure, if Iran stops funding, training and arming terrorist organisations like Hezbollah.
And stop threatening other countries in the Region.
#14953296
Ter wrote:Sure, if Iran stops funding, training and arming terrorist organisations like Hezbollah.
And stop threatening other countries in the Region.


By this logic, we should invade or regime change the USA, the UK, Israel, and several other western countries.
#14953299
Pants-of-dog wrote:By this logic, we should invade or regime change the USA, the UK, Israel, and several other western countries.

I was not aware that the countries you mentioned were helping Hezbollah.
Also, none of the countries you mentioned threaten to annihilate another country like Iran does.
Iran is bad, very bad, bigly bad.
#14953301
Ter wrote:I was not aware that the countries you mentioned were helping Hezbollah.
Also, none of the countries you mentioned threaten to annihilate another country like Iran does.
Iran is bad, very bad, bigly bad.


Your ignorance concerning US, UK, and Israeli support for terrorists and the hostile actions of these countries is not a rebuttal.

The point is that if we cite support for terrorism and hostility to other countries as a reason for war, why would we limit ourselves to Iran?
#14953382
Pants-of-dog wrote:Your ignorance concerning US, UK, and Israeli support for terrorists and the hostile actions of these countries is not a rebuttal.


Iran openly admits to arm, sponsor and train Hezbollah, an organisation recognised as terrorist by the UN, the EU, Russia and the US, and most other countries and organisations.

As you are a self-confessed communist, it is not surprising that you consider the US and other Western countries as equally, or even more villainous than Iran.

Iran's politics, behaviour and aggressiveness will undoubtedly lead to war, and we will see how effective it is on the battlefield.
#14953423
Ter wrote:Iran openly admits to arm, sponsor and train Hezbollah, an organisation recognised as terrorist by the UN, the EU, Russia and the US, and most other countries and organisations.

As you are a self-confessed communist, it is not surprising that you consider the US and other Western countries as equally, or even more villainous than Iran.

Iran's politics, behaviour and aggressiveness will undoubtedly lead to war, and we will see how effective it is on the battlefield.


What Western interest would be served by a war with Iran?

They have a long way to go before they put their infantry and tanks in Europe.
#14953433
Political Interest wrote:
They have a long way to go before they put their infantry and tanks in Europe.

Iran does not need to invade Europe militarily.
They will blackmail countries with their ballistic missiles.
Iran is already destabilising most of the Middle East with their interference in Yemen, Qatar, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria.
They threaten to annihilate Israel, risking a nuclear war which will definitely change the geopolitics of the whole world.
The sooner Iran is de-fanged and neutered, the better it will be.
#14953470
Ter wrote:Iran does not need to invade Europe militarily.
They will blackmail countries with their ballistic missiles.
Iran is already destabilising most of the Middle East with their interference in Yemen, Qatar, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria.
They threaten to annihilate Israel, risking a nuclear war which will definitely change the geopolitics of the whole world.
The sooner Iran is de-fanged and neutered, the better it will be.


How can we stop Iran getting nuclear weapons?

Personally I am more worried about Pakistan having them.

With all due respect to Israel's situation, that is their issue. I don't know why European or Ameican boys should be expected to fight a war to defend Israel. Israel makes no effort to improve relations with its neighbours. Netanyahu is an exremist. If a situation arises where there is a possiblity of genocidal actions against Israelis then Europe can step in. But providing diplomatic cover for Israel's excesses in the Middle East and providing support to all its actions is not a real Western interest. Europe is not going to let anything happen to the Jews again and Iran has a long way to go before it is at the Israeli border.

And how can Iran blackmail European countries with ballistic missiles? Norway or Germany are going to be blackmailed by Tehran?
#14953482
Ter wrote:Iran openly admits to arm, sponsor and train Hezbollah, an organisation recognised as terrorist by the UN, the EU, Russia and the US, and most other countries and organisations.


If you read declassified CIA files, you would know that the US, the UK, and other western countries also support terrorists.

As you are a self-confessed communist, it is not surprising that you consider the US and other Western countries as equally, or even more villainous than Iran.

Iran's politics, behaviour and aggressiveness will undoubtedly lead to war, and we will see how effective it is on the battlefield.


The amount of war, destabilisation of democracies, and terrorism caused by the US and like countries is demonstrably higher than what Iran has caused.
#14953557
I see Ter is completely unhinged and full of only propaganda when it comes to Iran and other countries Israel wants to destroy.

Ter, tell me, how did Hezbollah became a thing? :?:

Pants-of-dog wrote:If you read declassified CIA files, you would know that the US, the UK, and other western countries also support terrorists.


You don't even need the declassified reports anymore, people in power tell us what terror they're a part of / support. :D
#14953593
skinster wrote:I see Ter is completely unhinged and full of only propaganda when it comes to Iran


We take note of your opinion.
Nothing of what I posted has been denied or proven wrong.
POD played the whatabout game and skinster basically had nothing to say except for het ususal anti-Israel propaganda.

Here we go again:

Ter wrote:Iran does not need to invade Europe militarily.
They will blackmail countries with their ballistic missiles.
Iran is already destabilising most of the Middle East with their interference in Yemen, Qatar, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria.
They threaten to annihilate Israel, risking a nuclear war which will definitely change the geopolitics of the whole world.
The sooner Iran is de-fanged and neutered, the better it will be.
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