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Vanasalus wrote:If one is looking for genocide in Syria, he/she should look at a rubble of Homs, Aleppo, parts of Damascus and of course Raqqa, and survivors of these towns still living in rubble. Not at Turkish held towns Jarablus, Al-Bab, Afrin or Tal Abyad, somehow "occupied" by "genocidal" Turks with less than fraction of damage inflicted compared to towns annihilated by Syrian regime, Russians, PKK/YPG or Americans.
If one is blaming Turkey with genocide, he/she should explain to me why 3.6 million Syrian refuges, of whom there are 300 thousand Syrian Kurds, took refuge in such a "genocidal" country.
Speaking of refugees, my hometown of Kayseri, located in central Turkey far from Syrian border, hosts more than 80 thousand Syrian refugees, which is more than the number of Syrian refugees hosted by Greece, France, UK and USA, combined. Please explain to me how you convince yourselves that you care about the well being of Syrians and/or Syrain Kurds, while Turks don't.
Vanasalus wrote:If one is blaming Turkey with genocide, he/she should explain to me why 3.6 million Syrian refuges, of whom there are 300 thousand Syrian Kurds, took refuge in such a "genocidal" country.
Rich wrote:Syria is not a proxy war. It is a principle war.
It is a principle war born out of an authentic 1400 year conflict between good (if imperfect) Infidels and evil (if imperfect) Muslims. This is overlaid with other conflicts notably between Arab, Kurd and Turk. ISIS is the natural expression of Sunni Islam to having its domination challenged, its not some alien superbug produced in a Zionist or Imperialist laboratory. In Turkey democracy has overthrown secularism. The hideous reactionary developments we see in Turkey are just a natural part of Muslims being Muslims.
Now although I argue that we must be prepared to kill Muslim terrorists, although I argue we must be prepared to joyfully exterminate Muslim terrorists in significant numbers, I do not propose genocide as a final solution to the Muslim problem. My posts are not an attempt to signal that I think that genocide is a final solution to the Muslim problem. No ultimately it realistically must be mainly the Muslims that de-Islamify themselves as it was the Christians that de-Christianised themselves.
So Muslims must be contained, but ideally contained within uni-religion, uni-national, uni-sect polities. Tunis's success so far at democratisation, pluralisation and seculaisation is notable. Its 98% Arab, has virtually no Infidels and is overwhelmingly Sunni.
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