[Drlee]

You are right. And the employment numbers do not tell the whole story. If I have 100 employees and 12% are black (about what their percent of the population is) but only two of the 12 are management we can see that the numbers are worse than we superficially observe.

Unfortunately there really is a legitimate issue with blacks in tech companies like Google. Only 5% of all engineering degrees go to blacks and about the same to Hispanics. In 2010 there were only 163 PhD level black engineers in the US.

... black men as a proportion of all science and engineering bachelor's degree recipients has remained essentially unchanged, at 6.1 percent in 2002 and 6.2 percent in 2012.

The real deal is that racism is the key. Blacks tend to live in poor areas and poor areas still have poor schools, high crime and few defenders.

Of course we have a major party which does not believe in funding even the few programs we have to help fix this and opposes affirmative action at all levels.

We are not going to fix this in the US in foreseeable future. It simply is not going to happen. There is no traction for the things necessary to even begin the journey.

Just a story. I have an African American friend who is 82 years old. He started as a sharecroppers son and joined the navy. He worked very hard and got an engineering degree one course at a time. He rose through the ranks to eventually become an officer and was employed by Ratheon on his retirement. He has no chip on his shoulder though the obstacles he faced were enormous. I asked him if he knew other like himself. He said, "Not a one. It is almost impossible these days." The irony is that though he came up in the poorest of circumstances, he got a good elementary and secondary education in his all black and mostly black schools. He had the fundamentals to do college level work early on. He believes this is rarely the case these days.

The bottom line is that in the US less than 69% of blacks graduate from high school. In one state the number is less than 50%. About 10% of blacks are awarded bachelors degrees.

Racism it is. But as bad as we look we are nothing compared to the dismal education rates in sub Saharan Africa.

[Ombrageux]

This is true. It is obvious that educational performance is primarily dictated by how much money us handed over by the State.

I mean, look at Asians: they were put into camps by FDR, but they still do well, because they were given money. Jews, who also are brilliant academically, have a similar history.

Racism is the most plausible explanation for the correlation between blacks and low educational performance almost everywhere.

[Sirius Star]

Someone should be asking why all of the black crime? That is, whatever happened to White rule meant the end of the animal kingdom, while the law of the jungle has been allowed to run. The most civilized hardly rule anything, save what is left after their dark horses went conquering. Robert Mugabe, Julius Malema, the Mandela-effect, they are all the same. They built up nothing, they only tore down. So poverty is landing? Really, now why why that just happen to be? Oh, God's blessings. Okay, what goods.

Rhino and elephant tusks, just thousands murdered off, the big kangaroo show of how this democracy lasts. Yes, what trysters. Is murder of so many species always the result of accidents? No, whoever wanted this is the exact same as all of those poachers and hunters. So some may still wonder why abject poverty is still one of Africa's greatest products. Sure, it is all because those who gave that power away made mistakes.

Somehow, it just seems right, that the real intended view was to first deplete their economy to prove to all what they have allowed to happen, is that the big tribal hunts may be no longer, but using others to bring in more money to can the hunts, take pictures, have fun laughing about it, what terrorists. There will be no more votes for U.S. Presidents. The loss of South Africa, the white Boer Republic, the loss of white farms, as "Boer" means farmer, is the reason why Africa descends.

[Bosnjak]

Sub-Saharan Africa has the most children per women, 6-8... even in West you cant feed a hole basketball club

[Godstud]

The higher the poverty and lower the survival rate, the more children people have.

[Unthinking Majority]

White people showed up. Had a good time. Didn't leave a large enough tip.

Haha. This is a great post, part of the problem yes for sure.

Why Africa poor? Africa was transformed dramatically by colonialism. Instead of being wiped out and replaced with conquering Europeans and subsequently highly industrialized like in North America or Australia, local political systems were destroyed and replaced, cultures/religions changed, and borders drawn by Europeans and the territory eventually turned into "independent" nation-states when few unified nations actually existed within these countries, which has caused many civil wars and military coups.

It's difficult to industrialize when there is little political stability. Political stability is much more important to economic development than democratization. Add things like foreign resource exploitation, corrupt government leaders, massive debt crises due to global macroeconomic shocks, foreign domination/intervention during the Cold War, etc. and you have yourself a big fucking mountain to climb. It's hard to go from 10 to 100 when you have all these complex obstacles in your way.

[Bosnjak]

@Godstud China made it out of massbreading and poverty.



I heard 1 kg Gold in Sierra Leone is 7000.00 USD ( I could buy it from black minners over a dealer), but a kg gold is +/-41 000.00 USD, on the Worldmarket price, you can walk in a bank and get money for it.




Africa lets just the big western or chinese companies mine legaly, everything else fals under UN, Kimberly-Scam. So without approval of the corrupt and incopetent often AIDS ill politicians, you get trouble with the UNO if you trade "illegaly" mined gold. everything without Governement papers is Bloodgold, even just by poor farmers mined gold in the river.



They should let just their own people mine, to get a indigen small Burgoisie/ midle clas, not just some rich politician clans who get payed by western companies.


Too few Agronoms and Tractors.

[Godstud]

Bosnjak, China never had foreign countries colonizing it, and stealing its resources.

[Decky]

Bosnjak, China never had foreign countries colonizing it, and stealing its resources.

Oh my world, what is it with colonials and having no knowledge of history whatsoever?

Opium wars, unequal treaties, Japanese, Portuguese French, British and German colonisation of port cities? Boxer rebellion?

[Bosnjak]

@Godstud

Colonialism does not to have be bad, for example in India they still drive arround on English Steam trains.

Africa has the colonialism still not ended, the mining resources, the banks, and even farming ground belongs to international companies, pennys are left for locals.

They should somehow get rid of their elite, and have a more socialist government.

[Drlee]

It is absurd to blame Africa's problems on colonialism. They were not exactly on the brink of cold fusion before they were colonized. Indeed it is only in the light of the colonial powers that Africa is in relatively bad shape at all.

[Godstud]

There are indeed a lot of factors. Blaming it solely on colonialism is wrong, but it is an on-going major factor.

[Paradigm]

It is absurd to blame Africa's problems on colonialism. They were not exactly on the brink of cold fusion before they were colonized. Indeed it is only in the light of the colonial powers that Africa is in relatively bad shape at all.

Oh please! No one is saying they were Atlantis. There were inter-tribal conflicts, kingdoms with class stratification, and all the typical problems that other societies faced. But they had autonomy, and were able to provide for their people as well as any other society. They didn't need the white man's burden to be able to feed themselves. They were perfectly capable of that themselves.

[Drlee]

But they had autonomy,

From what? The local despot? Tribal warfare?

and were able to provide for their people as well as any other society.

You mean by starving the weak and expendables? I agree. They suffered frequent and devastating famines.

They didn't need the white man's burden to be able to feed themselves. They were perfectly capable of that themselves.

In an unsustainable way. It is preposterous to imagine a world where "we" build fences around less advanced societies and allow them to avoid confronting the modern world. Colonialism is inevitable. Was inevitable. The was never any alternative.

[Godstud]

Well, I don't know about inevitable, but it's certainly history. It's hard to pretend it didn't happen, now.

[Bosnjak]

In an unsustainable way. It is preposterous to imagine a world where "we" build fences around less advanced societies and allow them to avoid confronting the modern world. Colonialism is inevitable. Was inevitable. The was never any alternative.

Colonialism stopped, because it was too expansive for the Europeans, it was cheaper to buy the resources on the international market then to have a colony, where you have to pay for streets, hospitals and schools.


Now they get ressources without any responsibility.

before Mobutu in DR Kongo, was peerfect president, but the CIA and Belgium toppled him.

Also mali, from Mali Uran were Hiroshima bombs were made, but the country is as dirt poor as somalia.

[Rugoz]

Colonialism stopped, because it was too expansive for the Europeans, it was cheaper to buy the resources on the international market then to have a colony, where you have to pay for streets, hospitals and schools.

We pay a lot of money for those resources. The problem is they waste it all on stupid shit.

[Unthinking Majority]

Colonialism stopped, because it was too expansive for the Europeans, it was cheaper to buy the resources on the international market then to have a colony, where you have to pay for streets, hospitals and schools.

Colonialism stopped because WWI and WWII almost destroyed and bankrupted Europe and empires like France and Britain. Countries like Britain, France and Germany were great global powers pre-WWII...afterwards it was the US and Russia who stood standing.

But you're right that was a big factor also, empires are expensive to maintain.

[Bosnjak]

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[Suntzu]

Most of the problems of Sub-Saharan Africa can be explained by a single statement. The average I.Q. of Sub-Saharan Africa is about 70.