Suntzu wrote:Folk who believe Blacks are responsible for their own condition are racist.
Do you believe that race is an actual biological thing?
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Scamp wrote:Wait a minute, you mean Blacks in Africa are starving and poor. Shucks, the blacks who were lucky enough to come to the US because of slavery...now have decedent's here that are very well fed, even fat. And food is free. They also get free housing, free medical and free money to buy alcohol and gamble with. I guess the blacks that stayed behind got left out.
Insofar as Africans who stayed in Africa were the targets of racism, slavery, colonialism, imperialism, neo-liberalism, and capitalism, while the descendants of slaves in the US dealt with racism, slavery, and plain old fashioned capitalism, then yes.
Mind you, the fact that you arrived at a conclusion that is similar to the truth, but through faulty reasoning, does not make your faulty reasoning any better.
What you got wrong:
1. Being fat means you are well fed. Lol. No. Being fat means you eat too much junk food and not enough healthy food. As a person living in a low income neighbourhood, I can attest to the fact that it is easier to get pizza than a head of lettuce. It is easier to get banana liqueur than it is to get actual bananas.
For poor people, eating in such a way as to make you fat is far easier, more convenient and less expensive than eating in such a way as to make you well fed.
2. Food is not free. Food stamps might be. For some people. But the act of turning those food stamps into healthy food is a big deal. I spent over an hour and a half today getting fresh fruit, limited by what I could carry. That will feed my family wih fesh fruit for less than a day. There is no way rich people have to spend that much time getting bananas.
3. Free housing? Are you serious? This claim is so ludicrous, I think the burden of proof rests on the claimant. When I type this into Google, I get redirected to housing segregation wikipedia articles. Subsidised housing? Probably. For the poor, and since black people are disproportionately poor, then they would logically be a disproportionately high number of public housing recipients. But that is not free housing.
4. Free medical? This is wrong for the exact same reasons as the previous point.
5. The idea that black people are almost always spending their welfare cheques on alcohol and gambling is a profoundly racist argument. It is also petty moralism. If you want to pat yourself on the back for not drinking and gambling, go ahead, but it is not a logical argument.