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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4915122.stm

The Chinese authorities say they are putting up a huge statue of Chairman Mao Zedong in Tibet.

The 35-ton memorial is being built to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the former leader's death.

It is being erected in Gonggar County, near the Tibetan capital Lhasa, China's state-run news agency Xinhua said.

The statue will rise 7m from a 5m pedestal strengthened to withstand earthquakes. Mao Zedong ordered the Chinese takeover of Tibet in 1950.

The statue will be the central landmark of Gonggar County's Shangcha square, which covers about 40,000 sq metres, and is scheduled for completion in July.

According to the Beijing authorities, the statue of Mao Zedong will be the largest of its kind in China and the first in Tibet.

Changsha, capital of Hunan province and Mao's hometown, has donated 6.5m yuan ($811,000; £461,000) towards the cost of the plaza and statue, Xinhua reported.

"Many Tibetan people suggested we should have a statue of Chairman Mao to show our gratitude," a local Communist Party official told Xinhua:

Mixed reaction

The BBC's Daniel Griffiths in China says the statue is likely to get a mixed reaction from many Tibetans.

From Beijing's perspective, the area has been part of China for centuries. But for many, the Chinese government is an occupying power which has shown scant regard for human rights or for Tibet's unique culture, our correspondent says.

Communist troops marched into Tibet in 1950. Nine years later, the region's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, fled into exile along with tens of thousands of his followers after a failed uprising against Chinese rule.

Since then, China has exerted tight control over the region and this new statue of Mao Zedong is another reminder of Beijing's influence there, our correspondent adds.

Brilliant. I hope someone makes a statue of me that big some day.

They could shave some pounds off my ass, though.
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By Vladimir
#854008
Yes, I have heard about this on the radio a few weeks ago.
The caption for the picture says:
Mao is still revered by many as the founder of modern China

Why does it say "still"?
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By Eauz
#854221
It's nice how the Bourgeois class is using a symbol of "Socialism", to keep the image in the minds of peasants and working class, that China has not forgotten or given up on the ideas of Mao, when in reality, it's gone out the window...
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By dannymu
#854318
These Chinese commies really have no respect for the Tibetan people. Firstly they invade it and try to destroy Tibetan culture, especially their religion and monasteries. Secondly they don't respect the Human Rights. Thirdly they now decide to further provoke the Tibetan people by building the largest statue of China and say "Many Tibetan people suggested we should have a statue of Chairman Mao to show our gratitude" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Perhaps the descendants of Chinese people who came to live in Tibet after its take-over by the commies asked for this statue to be built. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: In no way I believe indigenous Tibetans asked for this toy to be built!!!
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By Eauz
#854390
Dannymu comes from: UK+Portugal.

Not as if these two countries had "perfect records" around the world. And both of these countries are Imperialist nations, to present day. So, maybe before you start "criticising" China for its record, maybe you should start questioning and dealing with your domestic issues, BEFORE you take on China.
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By dannymu
#854636
"Dannymu comes from: UK+Portugal.
And both of these countries are Imperialist nations, to present day."

Let me tell you the UK and Portugal WERE Imperialist nations ie are NO LONGER Imperialist nations. All former Portuguese colonies in Africa were granted independence by 1975. Goa had been invaded by India in 1961. Timor was to be independent by 1975 but Indonesia invaded and occupied it until 1999 if I'm not wrong. And as you may know in 1999 Macau was given back to China. About the UK, in the 60s and 70s loads of colonies in Africa were given independence. And by 1997 Hong KLong was given back to China, for their enrichment. So UK and Portugal are no longer Imperialist nations. And which domestic issues should I start questioning and dealing?????
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By Vladimir
#854706
The west is still imperialist. Even more so, but now imperialisms worked by economy, and armed invasions are hidden behind democracy. The west remains EVIL.
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By dannymu
#854793
"The west is still imperialist. Even more so, but now imperialisms worked by economy, and armed invasions are hidden behind democracy. The west remains EVIL."

Vladimir, give me evidence to support what you said about the west still being imperialist. I've given evidence against being imperialist. Now it's your turn to give evidence for!!!!
By fastspawn
#854832
of course UK is still an imperialistic nation, and there are remnants leftover in their former colonies. For example in Malacca there still is a St Francis Xavier Church, when Malacca is still in a predominantly Muslim nation. I don't think the Malays asked for it to be built there.

It's a bloody statue not some deathcamp. Its much better than having a street named after Petain. (Singapore still has a Petain Road, probably a holdover from WWI , when Petain was actually a hero)
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By Eauz
#854878
dannymu wrote:Let me tell you the UK and Portugal WERE Imperialist nations ie are NO LONGER Imperialist nations.
Imperialism is not the same form or shape you knew it to be in the past. In todays Imperialism, as Samir Amin points out:

The objectives of dominant capital are still the same—the control of the expansion of markets, the looting of the earth’s natural resources, the super-exploitation of the labor reserves in the periphery—although they are being pursued in conditions that are new and in some respects very different from those that characterized the preceding phase of imperialism. The ideological discourse designed to secure the assent of the peoples of the central Triad (the United States, Western Europe, and Japan) has been refurbished and is now founded on a “duty to intervene” that is supposedly justified by the defense of “democracy,” the “rights of peoples,” and “humanitarianism.” The examples of the double standard are so flagrant that it seems obvious to the Asians and Africans how cynically this language is used. Western opinion, however, has responded to it with as much enthusiasm as it did to the justifications of earlier phases of imperialism.


In addition, nations who apparently say they are "anti-imperialist", such as Finland and Sweden, only make this apperance, to hide the companies involved in places like Africa and Asia. Often, these forms, along with NGOs are ignored, or thrown into as a "humanitarian" way to save face.

Samir Amin does a pretty good job of outlining this issue in his Article.
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By Medved
#855619
This is nice! I hope that some day i'll visit that place and see Mao with my own eyes... Well done China!
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By dannymu
#855661
In addition, nations who apparently say they are "anti-imperialist", such as Finland and Sweden, only make this apperance, to hide the companies involved in places like Africa and Asia. Often, these forms, along with NGOs are ignored, or thrown into as a "humanitarian" way to save face.

I don't want to to discuss too much about something not very relevant to the current topic. The Finnish and Swedish companies are there to help improve their economies. The same applies to NGOs. In no way they are imperialists.
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By Eauz
#855675
I don't want to to discuss too much about something not very relevant to the current topic.
Well, you were the one who suggested that China should be condemned for "invading" Tibet. So, if you don't want to discuss Imperialism, don't bring the topic up...

The Finnish and Swedish companies are there to help improve their economies. The same applies to NGOs. In no way they are imperialists.
In other words, you deny that Imperialism exists? "Statements that imperialism doesn't exist, or that it doesn't merit a confrontation, a political and ideological war, are...historically false... NGOs & Human Rights are only a friendly face of Imperialism. For example, Haiti.
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By Medved
#855680
Oh come on! It is a well-known fact that NGOs are used by western governments to support pro-western powers all over the world including Africa.
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By Ideational Ontarian
#855725
I wonder if Vlad would be able to admit to the "EVIL" of his beloved Russia, which has been imperialist for hundreds of years to the day.

Anyway, its quite like the Chinese to defile beautiful Tibet with a statue of a fat moron like Mao.

Lastly, Eauz, just who are the Bourgeois in China? The Politburo?
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By Eauz
#855743
Lastly, Eauz, just who are the Bourgeois in China? The Politburo?
Well, it doesn't help when the Chinese government Shuts down 'leftist' Web sites

Ming Pao quoted the unidentified operator of one site as saying it was set
up to "give a voice to the poor, the weak and ordinary people, and to
spread the influence of Marxism, Leninism and Maoism."


But, you know, Marx & Mao actually wrote about oppressing the working class.

btw, IO, why do you have to be so chauvinistic? Can't you make one post, without making random assumptions?
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By Ideational Ontarian
#855770
There was nothing chauvinistic about my post in the least bit. I didn't even mention Canada or anything I belong to. What I did was ask who you consider the Chinese "Bourgeoisie." I mean who are they? The Politburo or the people who own the sweat shops?
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By Eauz
#855794
And I answered...

I was referring to your description of Mao...
Anyway, its quite like the Chinese to defile beautiful Tibet with a statue of a fat moron like Mao.
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By Ideational Ontarian
#855802
Boo freaking hoo. Mao was a fat ass and he did some of the stupidest shit in Chinese history. I'm a pretty big Churchill fan but I don't cry when people call him a fat drunkard. Get over it.
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By Eauz
#855816
he did some of the stupidest shit in Chinese history.
Well, seeing as you are an expert in Chinese history, please enlighten us, Mr. Liberal on these "stupid events" in history.

It's wonderful to know, that the whole time spent in this thread for you, has been to flame and use rhetoric. You add nothing of value to the thread, aside from slander and ignorance.
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