I love how they don't use the word 'gun' once. 'Protection', 'tools', 'life preserver'...does the marketing not work as well if you adress it for what it actually is - a machine designed to kill other people?
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I love how they don't use the word 'gun' once. 'Protection', 'tools', 'life preserver'...does the marketing not work as well if you adress it for what it actually is - a machine designed to kill other people?
My God those are disguisting fascistic images, and besides the second ammendment never meant free ownership of GUNS let alone by the populus.
CWAS wrote:Cops were fighting crime then, not every department was corrupt, We have a larger population and actual suburban population, so of course crimes are going to go up, during the great depression of course crime would be increased and in the south crime was releatively low.
And? the majority of americans don't smoke or drink, however that should not impede the liberty of another american who wishes to do so. And you were not allowed to carry around conceled weapons in many municipalities then, there just was not a federal law against it, people owned guns and kept them in their home. The more popular guns owned then were larger, rifles and shotguns, not glock nines, handguns were rather luxurious, I wonder someone wouldn't lag around a shotgun. Innocent victimes make up about 1/10,000 of gun crime. And modern day crime rates in many cities is higher today with gun control than it was then.
In 60 years there has not been one reputable study showing gun control reduces crime, in fact the anti gun tyrants are in a fury over the latest study that came back inconclusive.
The difference is whether that criminal has a gun or not.
More than enough were for my claim to be viable. Especially innercity cops, where most of the crime happened.
Exactly! They don't carry around shotguns and rifles! And hell if you could even get your gun out in time if you were geting robbed. The only way you could would if the criminal turned his back and didn't notice you. Not to mention guns aren't the most concealable thing in the world.
And 1/10000, give me the number for that source.
And those studies show the wrong thing. Crime is a fact of life. No one can stop it. The difference is whether that criminal has a gun or not.
And those studies show the wrong thing
I agree. This is something gun advocates seem to ignore. They assume only law abiding citizens will have guns...as if a gun is something that can't be stolen. Having armed citizens protects against armed criminals, but the solution is just to remove guns from society. There's a very big difference between crime in general and crime involving firearms. One pretty much guarantees someone involved will be killed or maimed.
Unless every single member of society is in possession of a gun, regardless of economic position, there can be no argument for gun ownership.
Forcing people to own one would be a violation of liberty
Fine then, those who want to get one should be completely subsidised by the government.
Otherwise you have a economic hierarchy of those who can 'protect' themselves and those who can't.
if they are providing subsidies then they can set the rules.
Oh I see, take away a law abiding constitutional right, because, possibly a criminal might have access to a gun, because there is no such thing as a black market. And I thought Gun Control advocates were out of touch with reality
Your constitution holds zero relevance to me. The pictures you posted assume guns are only used for protection...as if a woman in her own home is going to have the time to raise a rifle and instantly kill the two armed men who break into her house. Pretty picture, yet you accuse me of being out of touch with reality? I wonder...have you ever actually been in a situation where a criminal was armed with a firearm? My dad was and having a gun wouldn't have helped in the slightest. I think of effectiveness; armed population >>> armed criminals >>> need for a gun. I respect your argument on the grounds of liberty, but not reality.No one would be arrested if protesters did not dis[…]
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