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By Technology
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So basically, I'm straining all reasonability yet again, but this time I'm trying to fuse all of the big three together.

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How could this possibly make sense as an ideology? Can we fuse ethnic ultranationalism, liberal-capitalism, and communism into one monstrosity? Should we even try? Am I really bored? All will be revealed.

Well, it would have to be fundamentally stagist for a start, but that's no problem; Marxist communism is conceived as involving two-stages by pretty much every right-communist under the sun.

If it is possible to conceive of a genuine National Socialism, whereby all property is collectivized nationally (ultranationalism taken to its extreme really, as distinct from liberal nationalism), there is no fundamental logical error as bizarre as it may seem in also declaring your belief in ethnic nationalism.

Capitalism is fundamentally a relative matter because class exists due to difference. If a group of people have egalitarian ownership of capital within their group, then their society is socialist, but to outsiders they can be considered capitalist exploiters. This is true for companies, and it is true for countries. Pure communism, as the "end of history", fundamentally needs a global society because group private property is a thing; a classless nation-state still excludes by virtue of being a nation-state. However, the means of achieving this may depend heavily on subsuming everything under a regional order in the form of a nation-state.

A nation can act like a capitalist. It can create dependency and control the means of production and resources vital for the survival of other nations. State capitalist Russia's masterful control of the oil supply of its dependents demonstrates this relationship, but we can take this much further when we explore what that means for dualistic capitalist-socialism. Internally, a nation state may be structured like a co-operative, with equal ownership of the collectivized means of production, but externally it desires purposefully to always act as an owner of the resources other nations need. It can even extract their surplus labor like a capitalist. If a capitalist-socialist construct owns the food and oil supply of another nation, it can can get that nation to labor for it to produce even more resources at their expense, and then pay that nation its "wage" unequal to what it has produced. In this way, one nation can profit at the expense of another. One nation can put others into poverty, and like a capitalist carefully balance the proletarian-nations between servile dependency and revolt.

A Capcommunationalistic framework would create ethnic socialism within its borders, while acting like a capitalist without. It would serve to extract the most labor and resources from foreigners it could, using and weakening foreign nations to strengthen itself and take for itself material might as its profit. In its final mythology, it would seek to (ironically) reach into a stage of superabundance and shed its own dependance on its servants, destroying other ethnicities and creating a global, classless, moneyless, stateless "end of history", in which only one race stands in unity at the finishing line.






Thankfully, that's silly.
By mikema63
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I think you should go back farther than you have and go shopping for a lens through which to analyze political ideology. To create something that fuses liberalism, fascism, and communism you would need a philosophically idealistic romanticist materialist lens, which is self contradictory.
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By Solastalgia
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Ahhh, postmodernism. Love to hate it.
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By Rei Murasame
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I've always seen such a mess as being more like your position, Slybaldguy. Not giving a fuck about anyone, while simultaneously flying a red flag. Perhaps you and Vladimir Putin can get together and have a talk about it, since he seems to be trying to do the same.
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By slybaldguy
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Rei Murasame wrote:I've always seen such a mess as being more like your position, Slybaldguy. Not giving a fuck about anyone, while simultaneously flying a red flag. Perhaps you and Vladimir Putin can get together and have a talk about it, since he seems to be trying to do the same.


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I really wish you were (a) hetrosexual and (b) female because i'm loving your feistiness.
By mikema63
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Seriously though, through what lens do you even analyze reality that you came up with this concept?
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By Solastalgia
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Technology wrote:See? Capcommunazism is already causing vicious domestic trouble amongst its opponents!


Calm down. All you got was a few replies on a forum dismissing it as ridiculous.
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By Technology
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Solastalgia wrote:Calm down. All you got was a few replies on a forum dismissing it as ridiculous.


I'll tell my mom if you don't embrace Capcommunazism...


mikema63 wrote:Seriously though, through what lens do you even analyze reality that you came up with this concept?


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