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By Scrybe
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Hello!

I'm looking for my ideology. I do have political views, but I don't think I really fit into any of the traditional ideological camps like 'liberal', 'conservative', 'libertarian', etc.

I used to be a conservative in the traditional American sense of the word, but I have found myself moving away from conservatism.

Below are some of my views. I don't really have specifics for most of them. Feel welcome to critique them and point out inconsistencies.

-I am opposed to abortions except for when the mother's health is at risk, in which case I support her right to choose. Idk if I think I would want to see it banned, but at the very least I would like to see government cut funding for abortions except for the aforementioned exception and work to provide alternatives to abortions and reduce the number that occur.

- I believe quality healthcare is a right since it seems unfair for some people to be denied treatment simply because they cannot afford it. I know offices need money to stay open, but this is the 21st century, why can't we do better?

- Regarding education, I see homeschooling as preferable, but I recognize that not all parents are responsible or have the time and resources to homeschool their children. Therefore, I promote quality public education and common core, but reform public schools to do a better job at educating our children.

- I'm undecided about same-sex marriage, but it's a minor issue to me.

-Georgism has lots of good ideas, but I don't think relying solely on the LVT would work for the economy. I also don't know how well it would work if implemented in the United States. I at least agree with the philosophy behind it that the land was around before man and that it is common property.

-I'm undecided on death penalty and gun control except that the former, if it should remain legal, needs some serious reforms. I also don't see why we can't have capital punishment and rehabilitation programs.

-Economically, I'm a capitalist, but I support reasonable regulations involving regulations in health, safety, environment, and the fair and humane treatment of workers. I also support Fair Trade.

- I neither favor the progressive tax or the flat tax, and I'm satisfied with either.

- Foreign policy should focus on self- defense, justice, and cooperation with our allies while still respecting each other's sovereignty. I'm not an isolationist, but I'm no fan of the UN, either. I'm also pro-Israel.

-We need to use common sense regarding immigration. We have borders for a reason, so just enforce the existing regulations. As for illegals already residing in the United States, leave them alone as long as they aren't violent criminals and contribute to society in some way. Maybe allow a pathway to citizenship. Deportation should be a last resort.

-I support welfare for those who are unable to take care of themselves and for the unemployed who are actively seeking work or enrolled in job-training programs.

-I like New Federalism.

- I believe in a balance between privatization and government regulation. There are some things that work better when privatized and other things the government can do better than the private sector.

I'm using "government" vaguely here, so that means when I say the government should regulate or intervene in something, Idk if it should be the Federal Government, or the state and local governments.
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By Scrybe
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To provide defense, justice, and security as priorities, but also to ensure the equality of opportunity and a way out of poverty who were born into or for those who made poor decisions, but want a second chance. Maybe that is to broad.

Basically I want a balance between personal responsibility and social justice.
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You sound an awful lot like a Nixon-era Republican (see Drlee for more details). From a US standpoint you're pretty firmly a moderate, and you could either be a left-leaning Republican or right-leaning Democrat based on your views. It's pretty much a matter of which way you'd prefer to lean, because it's honestly as simple as that.

Of course, the correct choice for you would be to reexamine your feelings for Stalin, the gentle father of nations, but I digress.
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By Scrybe
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Well, I'm an independent, and I don't feel comfortable in either of the two main parties.

I've looked into the Libertarian Party, but some of my views are unlibertarian and the party's platform seems extreme.

I do plan to vote for Gary Johnson this year since I dislike both Trump and Clinton.
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Then you sound like a pretty normal, standard, moderate Independent. You have a mixture of views and you seem to lean conservative on a number of social issues American conservatives find important, e.g. homeschooling, abortion, etc. You also lean towards views American liberals would agree on: health care (but not universal health care from what you wrote), immigration, etc. I think it would be a bit hard to find a label that would properly encompass your views, beyond being a typical liberal democrat (your views do not stray from that).

As I said though, a lot of your positions are very similar to Nixon-style Republican ones, so whatever works for you and whatever you want to call yourself is basically your choice at this point, but I'd say it would make more sense (although be a bit mundane) to simply say you're either a moderate or centrist. Your positions range from being a left-leaning moderate to being a right-leaning moderate, depending on the issue.
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By Saeko
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Scrybe wrote:To provide defense, justice, and security as priorities, but also to ensure the equality of opportunity and a way out of poverty who were born into or for those who made poor decisions, but want a second chance. Maybe that is to broad.

Basically I want a balance between personal responsibility and social justice.


As I said, conservative, just not a neoliberal one.
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By Scrybe
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I honestly could go either way when it comes to the two main parties.

I guess I'm more of a conservative or "Blue Dog" Democrat than anything else.

My state, however, votes consistently Republican in both the presidential and gubernatorial elections and I do plan to go into politics someday, so being a Republican may offer me an advantage since a lot of times people voted for a person based on party affiliation rather than the individual's beliefs.
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Scrybe wrote:Hello!

I'm looking for my ideology. I do have political views, but I don't think I really fit into any of the traditional ideological camps like 'liberal', 'conservative', 'libertarian', etc.

I used to be a conservative in the traditional American sense of the word, but I have found myself moving away from conservatism.



First, I want to congratulate you for overcoming the brain wash of the media.
You are pro-Israel.
And this means you have a good basis.

and to the subject......

You don't have to find your ideology, you have to know your opinion on subjects.
Opinion is not just a group of sentences starting with "this is my opinion",
opinion is based on knowledge, logic, consistency, and can be defended.

After you determine your opinion, you have to prioritize the issues.
The party or the group that match your high prioritized issues is the most fit for you.

The problem in most democracies is that parties don't really have ideology,
and their real opinions are hided or expressed to fit the people taste.
Usa is the worst, the Democrats are hiding their real goals,
and the Conservatives have a supermarket of opinions.

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By Scrybe
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Most of the tests I've taken say I am a moderate to conservative Democrat. My reluctance with affiliating with the party is due to the increasingly progressive shift of the party's leadership.

I could be a Republican, but they all seem overwhelming right wing on fiscal issues, and it is social issues that separate moderates from conservatives. For me, it's the opposite. I'm socially conservative but fiscally moderate.
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Scrybe wrote:Most of the tests I've taken say I am a moderate to conservative Democrat. My reluctance with affiliating with the party is due to the increasingly progressive shift of the party's leadership.

I could be a Republican, but they all seem overwhelming right wing on fiscal issues, and it is social issues that separate moderates from conservatives. For me, it's the opposite. I'm socially conservative but fiscally moderate.


There was a time when to be "fiscally moderate, socially conservative" was a consensus as the US never had a strong socialist movement and the Republicans did not fully embrace free market economics until Reagan. From FDR's election in 1932 to Reagan's election in 1980 this was largely the consensus in the country. However the events of the 1960s pushed the Democrats toward the left and the Republicans toward the right.
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Scrybe wrote:I don't think I really fit into any of the traditional ideological camps like 'liberal', 'conservative', 'libertarian', etc.


Nor I. I despise liberals and conservatives. What's needed is an activist State not a conservative anti-state attitude. But State activism shouldn't mean liberal policies which emphasize the needs of individuals, many of them retards or very aged. Activism should focus on a greater Whole--the State, the environment, the planet.

-I am opposed to abortions except for when the mother's health is at risk, in which case I support her right to choose.


My only argument against abortion is that it's too indiscriminate to be eugenic. If it's OK to kill just because the individual finds it convenient, it should be OK to kill if the State finds it in the best interest of society or the environment.



I believe quality healthcare is a right since it seems unfair for some people to be denied treatment simply because they cannot afford it.


This shouldn't necessarily be the responsibility of the State. If the individual has the "right' to mess up his health with booze and junk food, the consequences should be his responsibility.

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Regarding education, I see homeschooling as preferable, but I recognize that not all parents are responsible or have the time and resources to homeschool their children.


:lol: Vast understatement. Lots of parents would teach their kids little besides the bible.


Therefore, I promote quality public education and common core, but reform public schools to do a better job at educating our children.


Right better public education.

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I'm undecided about same-sex marriage, but it's a minor issue to me.


Right--these really must be the doldrums of history if we haven't got better things to talk about and we sure do.


I'm undecided on death penalty and gun control except that the former, if it should remain legal, needs some serious reforms. I also don't see why we can't have capital punishment and rehabilitation programs.


Death penalty should stay, but gun control is overdue. Rehabilitation is OK.

Economically, I'm a capitalist, but I support reasonable regulations involving regulations in health, safety, environment, and the fair and humane treatment of workers. I also support Fair Trade.


OK for now but in the long run AI and automation may make the issue moot.


Foreign policy should focus on self- defense, justice, and cooperation with our allies while still respecting each other's sovereignty. I'm not an isolationist, but I'm no fan of the UN, either. I'm also pro-Israel.


You know, there are plenty of people, not just in the Mideast but among European states, that view support of Israel as incompatible with justice. In any event, pro- Israel policy, stemming mainly from the power of AIPAC and similar lobbies, is a classic example of how special interests foist their agenda upon our government and society without regard for our OWN REAL interests nor those of the international community (the bulk of which doesn't particularly like our Mideast policy). Read the tome by the two distinguished professors, Walt and Mearsheimer: The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy. They do an excellent job revealing how the pro-Israel bunch has messed up our foreign policy and repeatedly caused us awful and needless trouble. And I don't think we've seen the last or worst of it, not by any means....



I support welfare for those who are unable to take care of themselves and for the unemployed who are actively seeking work or enrolled in job-training programs.


The latter is OK but the former shouldn't be a government responsibility or certainly not a priority.

I believe in a balance between privatization and government regulation. There are some things that work better when privatized and other things the government can do better than the private sector.


For now OK.

I'm using "government" vaguely here, so that means when I say the government should regulate or intervene in something, Idk if it should be the Federal Government, or the state and local governments.


The central government should be strongest by far.
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