Pants-of-dog wrote:Cuba can do it on the budget of a developing country.
Don't kid yourself that Cuba has the perfect medical system. I'm sure it's not bad, but don't get carried away.
They have been known to inflate their numbers on things like lives saved, cancers cured, etc.. Especially those doctors that are sent overseas. I recall reading about that stuff in this BBC article (I know it doesn't count to you because it's BBC) where they interview a former Cuban doctor and her experience as a doctor overseas. She was sexually harassed, and her managers didn't give a shit to boot. Sound horrible. Anyway, I'm sure you would just brush this off as lies or an outlier.
My point is, the truth is never clear cut. There are pros and cons to everything. Cuban isn't perfect, nor is Europe, nor is the US.
Agent Steel wrote:I'm really torn on this topic and I can't make up my mind where I stand.
If you like the status quo, you would actually support free education and free healthcare. Here's why:
Free education allows those in the lower classes to have a chance at getting out of their situation. Thus, they are less likely to cause unrest. Because, hey, they do have opportunities, so why fuck that up? Same goes with healthcare, if even the poorest are getting the healthcare they need, they will not want to fuck that up either. Effectively, free education and healthcare will pacify poor people. This prevents them from fucking it up for those that are in the higher socioeconomic classes.
My thesis is, that by offering free education and free healthcare, we can continue to maintain the current overall system. Hence, conservatives should really support this. The alternative is the path we are on now. Which leads to more inequality and more unhappiness among the lower classes, and eventually.... revolution.
Basically, the current mainstream conservative position will encourage the dramatic change they don't want, where as the current mainstream liberal position will actually maintain the status quo that they don't want. Both side have it EXACTLY backwards.
This is why I support free healthcare and education. I also argue that supporting these is actually more conservative than liberal (in the American sense of those words).
With respect to healthcare and education, I am a true conservative by supporting them.