[skinster]

Who is this Bilek person, and why should I trust their interpretation of events?

Jennifer Bilek is a brilliant investigative journalist who has done many deep dives on the money and billionaires behind the transgender movement.

If you look at her work and claim she's incorrect, you're going to have to prove how. Because your opinion is of no value on this topic.

[Pants-of-dog]

@Pants-of-dog Why should we trust brain-washed ideologues like yourself?

I never said you should.

now, this Bilek person seems like a conspiracy theorist making money off the fears people have of trans folk.

But they might have a point. Do they have an argument?

[skinster]

now, this Bilek person seems like a conspiracy theorist making money off the fears people have of trans folk.

She actually writes about the big $$$$$$$$$$$ and industry of gender, not individual people with delusions. If you want to, you can read her and if you think she is lying about any of her claims, feel free to share. Otherwise, stop telling me about your feelings. You lot and your obsessions with your feelings as if anyone cares...

[Pants-of-dog]

So there is no reason to believe her opinion is any more valid than any other layperson when it comes to surgery.

Now, what is the supposed problem with whatever surgery she is decrying?

[ingliz]

You lot and your obsessions with your feelings as if anyone cares...

You lot and your obsessions with public conveniences as if anyone cares...

It's pathetic.

The odds of being raped by a transexual in a toilet are next to zero. And for the trans females who use 'your spaces' (and there are only a few), it's not as if they are parading their junk.

Women, faux or not, get cubicles.

[skinster]

^ Child abuse.

You lot and your obsessions with public conveniences as if anyone cares...

A lot of women care actually, and a lot of parents, hence the pushback against this delusional movement. I know misogynists only care about your own, which is men identifying as women, but you don't need to keep displaying it in every post.

The odds of being raped by a transexual in a toilet are next to zero.

Zero?

Women and girls have been sexually assaulted and raped in bathrooms, anally raped in U.S. schools, and attacked in UK schools, hospitals(where staff gaslit the victim until she was able to prove it with CCTV), prisons (an example from last week) by men identifying as women. Domestic violence and rape shelters have been attacked and closed down and defunded because men like you demand your fellow men are put into these spaces where women who have been traumatised by men seek safety.

And for the trans females who use 'your spaces' (and there are only a few), it's not as if they are parading their junk.

There's no such thing as "trans females" you dork. Female is a sex category. Your delusional friends are about special identities.

But on this note, women who identify as men are not demanding male spaces like the delusional men you cheerlead for. A lot of trans-identifying women still use women's toilets. Because they retain that fear of male strangers in confined spaces that nearly every woman has.

And yes they are absolutely parading their junk. The famous WiSpa event comes to mind where men like you and handmaidens were claiming this guy was harmless and it was the fault of women who were bothered by a man with his dick out in their spaces for giving a shit about it.

Turns out that one of your mates was a sex offender too. And your ilk went quiet as mice again when women were vindicated about the concerns they have about men in their spaces.

[ingliz]

"they retain that fear of male strangers in confined spaces that nearly every woman has."

God save us from hysterical women. I pity you. The War on Woke warrior afraid of the monster in your bed. It's a wonder you ever got laid.

[Pants-of-dog]

Despite the assertion that this debate is not about feelings, it seems like this about how we must hate trans people for being child abusers and fear them for being rapists, and anyone who disagrees does not care and has negative feelings towards women.

That seems to be entirely about feelings.

The OP is a an anecdote meant (obviously) to illicit feelings of disgust and therefore support banning such procedures.

This Bilek person’s “investigative journalism” (i.e. a link to a publicly accessible website in her Twitter feed) also seems like an attempt at the exact same thing.

[skinster]

^ you need to demonstrate how Bilek is incorrect when she shows the big money behind the industry to sterilise and mutilate people.

I see you can't despite repeatedly mentioning her. Which is typical from your ilk.

God save us from hysterical women. I pity you. The War on Woke warrior afraid of the monster in your bed. It's a wonder you ever got laid.

Spoken like a misogynistic pig who hasn't spoken to any women in his life about general fears all women have in confined spaces with male strangers. I see the only "women" you really pity are men who identify as us, so spare me...

Nice also to see you ignore the evidence of women and girls who have been raped by men identifying as women after you claimed these events never occur. The weird flexes of men who are pro the men's rights movement that is gender ideology never fail to make me laugh...

[Godstud]

@skinster The gender identity ideology has to groom children, since the surgeries and hormone blockers sterilize them, and they need to perpetuate their ideology upon the next generation.

The gender identity ideology is some of the only misogyny left in our modern society. Most people see this. Cultists cannot.

[skinster]

@skinster The gender identity ideology has to groom children, since the surgeries and hormone blockers sterilize them, and they need to perpetuate their ideology upon the next generation.

It is not lost on me and others that they are trying to indoctrinate the kids when they're at their youngest because that's what cults do.

The gender identity ideology is some of the only misogyny left in our modern society.

It is most definitely the new misogyny, one that gives men like the two men here arguing for men's right to violate women's rights the freedom to be as misogynistic as they like. The lack of self-awareness by those who are virtue-signaling on this front really is remarkable...

[Pants-of-dog]

Bikek literally just provided a link to a website.

There is no argument to disprove.

If this Bilek person made an argument, what is it?

[skinster]

Then why are you dismissing her without having read her?

If I were was as interested about someone someone mentioned, I'd just take a look online like a normal person. But here, for the demanding bloke who wants to be spoonfed:

Follow the Money: How the Pritzker Family Makes a Killing From the Transgender Industry

[Pants-of-dog]

Again, there was nothing to read. This person literally just posted a link. I explained this before.

Now we seem to be moving on to a new argument.

The Pritzker family also made a lot of money off Hyatt hotels.

This must mean that hotels and being trans are exactly the same in every way.

I supose I should follow the link and then put together the argument for this person and then dismantle it.

[Godstud]

I won't look at your sources because urrrrr ..... cApiTaLiSm!!!

How her sources make their living is irrelevant to the topic, as it is unrelated. The doctors who make man-made vaginas are making millions off of the grooming of new cultists that you are helping to indoctrinate.

[Pants-of-dog]

No one said anything about her sources.

Except this journalist. I guess, who made accusations about this family.

[ingliz]

after you claimed these events never occur.

I didn't claim that.

Next to zero is not zero.

Your reading comprehension is very poor.

When you've got time I suggest you book yourself in for some remedial English classes. At least then, you could (maybe) understand the points made. And not go off half-cock. And not make a fool of yourself.

[skinster]

Next to zero is not zero.

You were suggesting it never happens and I shared a number of reports of it actually happening in various spaces that have been invaded by men, in schools, bathrooms, hospitals, prisons, women's shelters etc. Not that you care, since you ignored it entirely, and the time before I shared similar. If you don't care about women and girls being raped, you don't need to pretend to care. It's pretty obvious you don't anyhow..

Again, there was nothing to read. This person literally just posted a link. I explained this before.

I posted an article. Here's another, this one includes comments about people like you:

Corporatism, the New, New Left and the Gender Industry
“Inclusivity is more than a social cause; it’s a business opportunity. It’s time to maximize your business growth.”- DMI Consulting

Let me get this out of the way because it seems more than a few people still need to hear this.

CORPORATIONS DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU!

“Diversity and inclusion ”(D&I) comprise a new business mantra. Programs and language based on the normalization of body dissociation are being corporately cultivated worldwide. The programs being instituted appeal to our emotions, to entice us to believe that companies care about people and want to create one big happy, diverse work-family, which includes marginalized sectors of society - most notably, those who imagine they have a sex that is not male or female. The overlooked are finally being given a place at the table!

Or are they?

The new, new liberal left in America, the left that has emerged out of a traditional new left, which cared about the working class, blacks, and women’s rights, who yearned for a more equal and just social order, is unrecognizable to many of us who’ve long been of the traditional left. Just a decade ago, that left sparked a potentially revolutionary movement on Wall street, calling out the financial industry and the monopolies ruining our lives and our planet. Emerging out of the carcass of that potentially revolutionary movement is a left that has recently climbed into bed with those same big banks. Snuggled up in bed with them, fluffing their pillows, are Big Pharma and Big Tech. The new left is screaming at protests, getting comprehensive media coverage, voices in our universities and institutions, and crying that people claiming their sex is not male or female need human rights. These manufactured sexes are being supported by, promoted, and advertised by Big Pharma, Big Tech, and Big Banking. This new, unrecognizable left sees no irony at all in their behavior.

These purported new sexes, ostensibly requiring special human rights, depend on a narrative that sexual dimorphism isn’t real, that it exists on a spectrum of sexes. This is the gender industry, and with projected profit margins reaching into the billions by 2026 for surgeries on healthy sex organs alone and the amount of advertising curated to sell it, it will be very profitable indeed.

How has the left been so duped about new markets being manifested out of sex that they scream liberation every time someone dares to mention the glaring inconsistency of human rights for corporate profiting off of young adults and children’s bodies?

The left knows corporations do not care about the color of our skin, whether we are oppressed because of the said color of our skin, whether we live in an igloo or a cardboard box, whether the icebergs are melting, or whether Fukushima nuclear plant is planning to dump millions of tons of radioactive waste into the oceans, later this year, externalizing the cost of doing business. How do they not understand that corporations do not care about anybody’s identity? Unless those identities are opening markets.

The constant business-woke-posing (D&I), for Black Lives Matter (BLM), the LGBT Inc, and the often corporate mixing of both under the “Black Trans Lives Matter” slogan is about profit. Every little advertising slogan and word is carefully selected to appeal to an ever-increasing fragmentation of humanity into subcategories to be marketed to. It is all about the corporate bottom line. If they can convince us that the disembodiment movement of “gender identity” is akin to the civil rights movement for black Americans or has anything to do with LGBs, they’ve roped us into their narrative of care. Further, if they can convince more black Americans of their insane narrative of disembodiment-as-progress, it supports the illusion they are selling to all of us. Fortunately, that isn’t going well so far. Despite their efforts to corral black youth and the relentless corporate propaganda aimed at them, black youth are not crying about their “gender identities” or clamoring for cross-sex hormones.

The left knows corporations don’t care. The working class knows this. It’s why the Occupy Wall Street movement evolved so quickly. I was there, a decade ago, at ground zero, with 40,000 people from every walk of life, as we traversed the Brooklyn Bridge in protest of the financial sector's chokehold on us. These same people are waving flags in traditional, baby-colored, pink, blue, and white, screaming about human emancipation through medical identities. Many sew themselves to the techno-medical complex for life.

For a concise and readily comprehensible explanation of how unfettered corporatism functions, I urge you to examine the work of Stephanie McMillan, a lifelong activist, and an anti-capitalist. She explains, in language that is entirely accessible, how corporations are set up to compete in the global marketplace: “To care about people over profits would jeopardize the corporatist’s position within that system and their livelihood.” Corporate heads consist of those with the most significant wealth who depend on an exploited working class not just to function but to suck wealth upward from the bottom, creating ever more wealth for a few, leaving the masses at the bottom with less and less. According to UN stats, this is a worse crisis for women worldwide, putting in 12.5 billion hours of unpaid care work each day — contributing to the global economy of at least $10.8 trillion annually. The reporting of these statistics will no longer be an accurate measure of what is transpiring globally since men will be included in the stats for women under the new corporate gender regime.

We live in an oligarchic gulag that isn’t very private. Our communities are open to accepting and normalizing a male fetish based on disembodiment, creating a sexual psychodrama of our corporate and civil landscapes, for-profit while dismembering people and creating more identities to market to.

Because we are governed by corporate monopolies and the billionaires behind them, driving a steady stream of propaganda through our media, we no longer know what fake and real news is. We don’t know what men and women are (or we pretend not to, to fit in). We don’t know if people on social media or advertising are real or computer generated, and our ability to speak about anything outside the corporately generated illusions plaguing us is being penalized in myriad ways, not the least of which is controlled and censored speech. Yet suddenly, we are to believe, and many on the new, new liberal left do think, these monstrous monopolies that have colonized the entire natural world have suddenly changed their ways and care about people. They primarily care about these new imaginary sexes manufactured from philanthropic funding, corporate cash, and the techno-medical complex.

In a recent Business Insider issue, Will Meyer looks at the corporate woke hypocrisy, posing as care about the marginalized. “IBM and Microsoft,” he reports, “claimed they would no longer sell facial recognition software to law enforcement, signaling their alignment with the Soros-backed BLM movement, despite both corporations remaining deeply invested in punitive systems that continue to harm Black and brown lives.” The BLM movement has the same corporatists behind it as the gender industry.

Selling D&I to the public is such a big business that some corporations teachother companies how to market it effectively. This fracturing of humanity via the colonization of human sex is how unfettered corporatism functions. It splits everything into smaller and smaller fragments to open markets. Where we once had a single-family physician to help us heal, we now have many specialists to treat everything from lung cancer to toenail fungus. Where we have had a sexually dimorphic species, we now have medical identities that deconstruct sex, being foisted upon us, to open markets.

Those with wealth create more wealth for themselves, while underlings, not having access to wealth, land, or goods, are forced to sell their labor for less and less money. The corporatists siphoned off wealth, goods, and land. Well, now the corporatists, with little left to extract, have come for human sex, and they are not leaving until they have it, or we rise in resistance and reclaim what is left after their ravaging.
https://jbilek.substack.com/p/corporati ... w-left-and

@QatzelOk - I think you'll be interested in this article..

[QatzelOk]

When I think of all the people I know who regretted certain tatoos or piercings.... multiplied by a thousand in the case of body parts....

The very first gender transition that I met (40 years ago)... got cancerous nodes all around HIS sewed-on breasts and had to get them removed with the danger of the cancer mestasizing.

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Also, that was a great article, skinster!

Isolated suburban child: "Help, I am a feminine male!"

Pfizer etc: "No worries. We can help you self-actualize through our products!"

[ingliz]

You were suggesting it never happens

No.

I was suggesting the odds of you being raped by a man identifying as a woman in a public convenience was close to zero.

In other words, seeing as odds are not your thing, you'd more likely win the Euromillions than have your fantasy fulfilled.