Presvias wrote:With respect, tribal populations do tend to look after their own but only in certain ways, they're all different...and such doesn't mean they're not poor.
I'm not entirely sure that's anasawad's intentions here. His point is that most tribals don't struggle to meet basic needs which is false if most of the Jordanian population is tribal.
I'm convinced that tribal relations, while significant, aren't big factors in how Arabs or Jordanians make decisions. Tribes may influence behavior but they do not determine it. Tribes are also incredibly diverse so homogenously stating that they act in a specific way isn't useful.
Furthermore, Islamic charity & zakat in certain countries means you can often turn up at a stranger's door or friend's house and say 'feed me brother' and you will be helped - not everywhere you understand, but it exists in plenty of places, and again it's not uniform in any one country. (I'm not sure if any of that is relevant to the Jordanian tribes ans refers to though, but I suspect it probably is - almsgiving is highly encouraged amongst some Muslims)
That's not what zakat is (zakat is the institutionalized practice of wealth redistribution) but you're referring to a completely different practice. And you can't give hospitality if you have nothing. In Arab societies, the poor deal with the lack of an ability to meet the charitability standards that society expects of them.
If you were invited or asked for food from a poor family, they would give you pretty much all they have and do it with a smile but they'll be aching in their hearts.
That's not my anecdotal opinion gathered from the internet, it's what multiple Islamic friends from varying countries have told me face to face about how life differs from life in the west.
Yeah I know.
I was an anarchist when I was 19; you're 16. There are many aspects of anarchism that are fascinating both historically as well as philosophically, but I do not believe it is necessarily the most practicable system going..as borne out by the Spanish in Catalunya and the Makhnovishchina.
The lessons gained from Catalonia and other experiments can be used to develop better experiments in the future. Progress is an experimental process that is always changing.
And none of those anarchist societies survived long enough to make the assertion that they can't work. And don't claim that lack of survivability is an issue because they dealt with great amounts of pressure both economically and militarily and they still survived soooo.
With the utmost of respect, your life experiences are probably not as broad as ours; and the other poster is right...you do come across as not fully understanding the ME's very differing cultures and tribes.
I do. I just type on my phone so I can't go in too deep.