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wat0n wrote:Maybe. Honestly the Democrats' response has been utterly pathetic and the actions by the far left have been ridiculously self-defeating so far, so I'm starting to wonder if Trump would truly be worse at this point
Sooner or later, something will have to give in as far as this autonomous zone goes.
Rugoz wrote:You don't get it, Trump is just a dumb grandstander pouring oil into the fire. A sack of potatoes would be better. Looks like you're already adjusting to the stupidity of your new home.
It’s time for a brand new name for the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ). Some organizers now refer to the commandeered 6-block radius as Capitol Hill Occupied (or Organized) Protest (CHOP). But some folks are confused.
Activists have been removing signs from the site formerly known as CHAZ in hopes that the new CHOP name better reflects their action.
The change was made, one unnamed organizer said, because “this is not an autonomous zone, and we’re not trying to secede from the United States.”
He claimed that outsiders called it CHAZ, though provided little evidence. Indeed, protesters at the site previously known as CHAZ actively embraced the old name. But, CHOP it is. We’re just not entirely sure what the “O” stands for.
On Saturday afternoon, one organizer on a bullhorn announced the change from CHAZ to CHOP. He said the “O” stands for “Occupied.” But another organizer confidently declares it “Organized.”
So which is it?
It’s unclear who decided to make the name change from CHAZ to CHOP. There’s no leader at CHAZ/CHOP, and it’s a space occupied by a variety of groups and community organizers. But last night, the change discussion turned to action as activists began to pull down signs reading Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.
And there were some tense moments Friday night as the CHAZ signs came down.
There apparently wasn’t agreement on the change, so bickering and a small skirmish ensued. One activist would end up chiding them for being focused on the wrong issue — CHAZ to CHOP — than on police brutality and racism.
Beren wrote:He's rather ridiculous because he'd be told to fuck off by nearly everyone in both Seattle and the state of Washington.
Beren wrote:It's not so radical and there's much confusion even about the name.
It's time for Trump to calm down, really.
Seattle has a serious history of, well, such things, by the way.
Unthinking Majority wrote:After a bunch of shootings, CHAZ/CHOP is finally being shut down by the mayor. Another failed utopia.
Patrickov wrote:Actually I find anyone having a damn of this laughable, Trump especially.
While I understand and to some extent agree that what happened has some similarities to Communist "revolutions", it is mostly confined to where they initially claimed and no more. Why not leave these fine folks alone?
Unthinking Majority wrote:CHAZ is an autonomous, some might say sovereign, six-block region of downtown Seattle taken over by protestors. Police have been booted out of the police station there, and barricades put up to control the flow of people. Seattle's mayor has rebuffed Trump's calls to use the military to go in to take back control.
So is CHAZ an illegal occupation of terrorist thugs, or freedom in America in 2020?
Donna wrote:I had a dream of the Paris Commune but the only thing they were able to seize control of were heavily insured shops.
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