Pants-of-dog wrote:As long as you have abandoned the argument that everyone who criticizes settler colonialism in Israel is antisemitic and wants to kill all the Jews.
I never made this argument.
Yes, the KKK do this quite often. And they often get police protection.
And they actually and openly want to kill all the Jews.
I guess these protesters are worse than the Klan?
None of this answers my question to you of whether the KKK protesting support for killing black people (or Jews, or anyone else) is peaceful protest?
I'm sure there's pro-Palestine protestors who don't advocate killing anyone and just want a ceasefire and to stop Israel's military campaign in Gaza and any human rights abuses like the alleged withholding of food aid. But among the protestors there's also people who support the Oct 7 genocidal attack so yes those individuals are as bad as the KKK.
The occupation of Gaza.
Is it legitimate?
The general military occupation of Gaza to kill Hamas and other jihadists who carried out Oct 7 I think is legitimate since Oct 7 was an act of war where it is ethical to defend against. Any possible war crimes like specifically targeting innocent civilians or withholding humanitarian aid is not legitimate and should be investigated as war crimes.
Also note that the Israeli settlement building in the West Bank is clearly not legitimate, and if Hamas/jihadists had only attacked military targets on Oct 7 as a response to the settlement building etc then that form of attack would also be legitimate IMO. But the jihadists didn't do that, they went on a genocidal rampage targeting civilians.
1. In this context, obviously.
2. Because social media has lots of footage of cops hitting protesters. Convince me this is the minimal amount of violence necessary.
1. But I don't know all the details to make any judgement either way.
2. No because i'm not arguing it was the minimal amount of violence necessary. I have no idea if it was or not. If it wasn't then the civilians should sue the police dept and the cops should be fired. If the cops were overly violent then they should be held accountable. The protestors who didn't comply with the law should also be held accountable.
You seem to only care about the law when the police break it, but don't care at all when pro-Palestinian protestors break it. The law applies to everyone, it doesn't operate based on your personal biases. This concept is called "the rule of law":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law You generally have a lot of double-standards based on which identity group is involved in an issue. You think people should be treated differently based on their group identity or whether you agree/disagree with them politically. Universal human rights, democracy, and the rule of law don't work like that, thankfully.