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Hierarchy

In contrast to the tradition-based definition of conservatism, some political theorists such as Corey Robin define conservatism primarily in terms of a general defense of social and economic inequality.[14] In that way right-wing politics supports the view that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics, or tradition. From this perspective, conservatism is less an attempt to uphold old institutions and more "a meditation on—and theoretical rendition of—the felt experience of having power, seeing it threatened, and trying to win it back".[15] Conversely, some conservatives may argue that they are seeking less to protect their own power than they are seeking to protect "inalienable rights" and promote norms and rules that they believe should stand timeless and eternal, applying to each citizen.[16]

Realism

Conservatism has been called a "philosophy of human imperfection" by Noël O'Sullivan, reflecting among its adherents a negative view of human nature and pessimism of the potential to improve it through 'utopian' schemes.[17] The "intellectual godfather of the realist right", Thomas Hobbes, argued that the state of nature for humans was "poor, nasty, brutish, and short", requiring centralised authority.[18][19]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism#Hierarchy
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Istanbuller wrote:If Republicans don't win, why are Democrats complaining so much? Didn't they want migrants so much in the US? What changed now? Do they suddenly become anti-migration?

Republican governors and mayors deliver Democrats' wishes. So they must be happy about it. :lol: :excited:


It is also bizarre that Republicans think Democrats are complaining.

Anyway, my point was that Desantis got the undocumented immigrants onto planes using force or deceit. You do not seem to disagree.
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ckaihatsu wrote:
coup-plotter



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"Now that he has lost his taxpayer-funded sham investigation, he’s stepping up his violent rhetoric even more," Spreitzer said. "This kind of violent rhetoric sadly isn’t surprising, but it is still deeply disturbing and absolutely wrong. Either Mike Gableman failed to learn the lessons of January 6th or he is actively supporting yet another attempt to violently overthrow our government."

Gableman, Michels have support of Donald Trump

Gableman and Michels are backed by former President Donald Trump and have promoted Trump's false claims about widespread voter fraud and irregularities manipulating the outcome of the 2020 election. Both have said they are open to the idea of decertifying the election outcome. Toney has agreed with constitutional experts that decertification is impossible and illegal.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/202 ... 386928002/
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ckaihatsu wrote:
Drank their own Kool-Aid / mindfucked themselves.



This is *CIA*-type shit, and immigration *does* have to do with Latin America....



Blowback is a term originating from within the Central Intelligence Agency, explaining the unintended consequence and unwanted side-effects of a covert operation. To the civilians suffering the blowback of covert operations, the effect typically manifests itself as "random" acts of political violence without a discernible, direct cause; because the public—in whose name the intelligence agency acted—are unaware of the effected secret attacks that provoked revenge (counter-attack) against them.[1]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence)
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SpecialOlympian wrote:
Red states don't want migrants. They just give them jobs because it's polite, and because they are better than hypocritical limousine liberals. But they wish they would leave! Oh, how they hate their cheap migrant labor!!!



I guess when it comes to life and lifestyle the Western ideal can be summed up as 'retro-Roman' -- privileged hedonism, land ownership, national foreign holdings, foreign slave labor for the household and grounds, holding-court, partying, elitism, etc.

(Shocking, but it's my pet theory -- 'retro-Rome' prevailed in mainstream TV culture in the '70s and '80s.)



The fact is, that civilisation requires slaves. The Greeks were quite right there. Unless there are slaves to do the ugly, horrible, uninteresting work, culture and contemplation become almost impossible. Human slavery is wrong, insecure, and demoralising. On mechanical slavery, on the slavery of the machine, the future of the world depends.



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