[Independent_Srpska]

Sure RSK, if you say so. I may be Maas as well then, Smilin' Dave and a whole lot of other people on this forum who see your Serb genocide denial for what it is

I think you are a little confused, the constitution of Yugoslavia was void as Yugoslavia didn't exist anymore, by the legitimate and collective will of its peoples. Croats made Serbs a recognised national minority, which they were in the country given their % in the population. Croats in Serbia didn't even have that basic status until 2005 and never attacked anyone, yet somehow the Serbs thought it justified them to start killing and bombing thousands of people, because the Serbs are obviously "special".

So suddenly everyone except the Serbs were terrorists? Sure baby, keep that false cult of victimhood going.

Everyone wanted out except the Serbs. The Serbs were not worth more than everyone else combined so that they had any right to prevent them. The laws of Yugoslavia ceased to exist when Yugoslavia ceased to exist by its own decision. Sorry, Serbia isn't more "Yugoslavia" than Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and BiH are (though I have no doubt about your nationalist delusions of being worth more than everyone else combined), thus Serbia had no right to act in the name of Yugoslavia but could only act in the name of Serbia, which it later did when it shifted its focus from pretending to be a guardian of Yugoslavia's existence against everyone's will, to simply dropping the whole pretend act and attempting to make an ethnically pure Greater Serbia come true under the guise of protecting the poor Serbs from the evil Croats and Muslims.

There was no Yugoslav state after everyone left, Serbia was expanding its territory and influences via its pseudo-country parasites in Croatia and BiH and its reborn Chetnik forces that killed thousands. Rest assured if anything in the 90's resembled Hitler's actions it was the Serb conduct across the Balkans that basically said "If we can't be in charge, let's kill all non-Serbs".

1. Serb forces in Croatia that started the "log revolution" harrassment and impairment of connectivity and commerce between parts of Croatia, attempted to cut off the southern part of the country from the north, occupied a third of Croatia and ethnically cleansed all non-Serbs from it which included several massacres such as those in Dalj, Široka Kula, Lovas etc before the Croats committed any atrocity towards the Serbs, this was followed by the Serb bombing of a dozen cities and complete destruction of one along with 1500 of its people. All because Croats made them a recognised national minority which due to their numbers in the country, they were. Well, that's today's excuse anyway, what they really wanted is obvious and had little to do with the lamented constitutional status.

2. Who started the war in BiH? Probably not this guy, right?
On 13 October 1991, Karadzic speaks with Momcilo Mandic : "In just a couple of days, Sarajevo will be gone and there will be five hundred thousand dead, in one month Muslims will be annihilated in Bosnia and Herzegovina".

Just because an admirer of Yugoslavia and a WW2 war criminal said so Gee and here I was thinking you despised war criminals from WW2. This whole bullshit that he thinks Yugoslavia was under attack by peaceful secession of the states that made it up is only his ideological opinion, as is that Croatia was part of Yugoslavia after independence even though such a thing as Yugoslavia didn't exist any more at that time.

Of course one should know more about the person to see where his rhetoric comes from. Knowing he had a falling out with HDZ and his touchy Yugoslav past (read: killing civilians after WW2 as a Yugoslav secret police chief), it's no surprise that he would talk shit about anti-Yu movement. Unfortunately for historical revisionsits, it's well known who seceded peacefully, and who started ethnic cleansing, massacres and bombing cities, which is what war really is. One war criminal and traitor's words won't change the wealth of historical evidence on the contrary.

That's a Serb news/film video so it must be solid unbiased truth right? Of course that's only one side of the story.
The other side is that the innocent civilians in Sijekovac that were armed Serb paramilitaries were later "reclassified" as civilians by RS, not to mention that there are people on that list who died in 1996 after the war (killed by local Serbs) yet they are classified as civilians killed by Croats and Bosniaks in 1992. Apparently others are guilty even when the Serbs kill their own.

Slovenia was an independent state with a foreign army invading its soil in a show of intimidation and dropping threatening propaganda leaflets on its capital city, and acted accordingly. Whine all you like, if anything they should be glad they acted promptly to the very first signs of JNA/Serb things to come, kicked their ass in a great organised operation, and thus avoided the fate of Croatia and Bosnia. At least the Serbs didn't get to fuck up another country.


So my conclusions while talking to you:

Serbs leaving on orders from their own leaders (and not because Croats cleansed them) as Croatia was liberated, and about 500 Serb civilians dead both in fighting and in subsequent reprisals, which were not ordered from above since general Gotovina ordered that no harm must come to remaining Serbs after Storm

^is a worse "crime" than:

12000 killed in barbaric 4-year Siege of Sarajevo, including 1500 children
8300 executed in Srebrenica
- just two of the pearls in the crown of Serb atrocities in Bosnia under innocent Serb heroes like Mladic and Karadzic.

Also, if we can learn anything from the likes of Serb genocide defenders, it's the following:

Always making anti-Serb conspiracies
Croats
Slovenes
Bosniaks
Albanians
Americans
Brits
Germans
Dutch
The Vatican
most of the rest of the world

Always right and innocent, even when killing thousnads of people:
Guess who?

Yeah, yeah, typical Ustasha crappy propaganda that we all ready smashed into pieces several times - everything was void, but Croatia...everyone was worthless but Croats...Croats are so worthy that they had all the right to occupy Serbs in Serb territories, Croats had right to kill Serbs even in Bosnia and Herzegovina, dead Serbs are worthless (so, had Croats started killing Serbs first - that's not important, because dead Serbs are worthless), dead Serbs are propaganda, everyone who speaks the truth that is not in accordance to official Croat-ustasha policy he is at least WWII war criminal, communist, or God forbid a Serb, the constitution is not important unless it speaks in favor of Ustashas, if constitution doesn't speak in favor of Ustashas , we Ustashas will say it is a void constitution, so on and on...blah blah blah.....

Dear Mouse, long story short: Croat terrorists and secessionists violated the Constitution of Yugoslavia, then western forces (First Germany then other NATO-fascist countries) supported Croat ustashas in killing Serbs and in ethnic cleansing Serbs from "what-is-today-Croatia"....political influence of NATO-fascists combined with NATO-military aid was stronger than legal and military mechanisms of Yugoslavia, therefore Croat ultra-nationalists managed to destroy Yugoslavia, because Yugoslavia was unable to defend herself. Full stop.

So, all your ustasha nazi rambling is nothing but a so called "thief mentality" - "I stole it - I wasn't caught, therefore I had a legitimacy to stole it "...

[Maas]

What numbers? The Clinton's number? Yeah, yeah....for sure...

as shure as your "hero" is going to be convicted over it

Always making anti-Serb conspiracies
Croats
Slovenes
Bosniaks
Albanians
Americans
Brits
Germans
Dutch
The Vatican
most of the rest of the world

you forgot Ustasha
it doesn't even exist, but lets blaime them

[Independent_Srpska]

as shure as your "hero" is going to be convicted over it

Yep, in the NATO institution in the Hague - everyone is innocent until proven to be a Serb.

[Maas]

Yep, in the NATO institution in the Hague

Nato has nothing to do with it. Its an institution because of United Nations Security Council resolution 827, where even your good buddies the Russians are up for convicting your "heroes".

[Independent_Srpska]

Nato has nothing to do with it.

yeah, yeah...

[Maas]

you want me to source the resolution?
15 votes for prosecuting the "heroes", zero absent zero against

[Independent_Srpska]

I would more prefer if you switch on your brain

[Maas]

United Nations Security Council resolution 827, adopted unanimously on 25 May 1993, after reaffirming Resolution 713 (1991) and all subsequent resolutions on the topic of the former Yugoslavia, approved report S/25704 of Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali, with the Statute of the International Tribunal as an annex, establishing the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia

Oh how long does it take for a ultra nationalist to accept reality

[Independent_Srpska]

you are funny

[Far-Right Sage]

Yes, it certainly matters whether it is the unbiased and benevolent institution of NATO, as opposed to the unbiased and benevolent institution of the United Nations.

Both are illegitimate criminal syndicates which should see their headquarters razed and bulldozed into ash.

[Independent_Srpska]

I might be convinced in "un-biasness" of the Hague NATO-tribunal if Clinton would take an oath it is not biased "court" so, help me Monica

[roxunreal]

Yeah, yeah, typical Ustasha crappy propaganda that we all ready smashed into pieces several times - everything was void, but Croatia...everyone was worthless but Croats...Croats are so worthy that they had all the right to occupy Serbs in Serb territories, Croats had right to kill Serbs even in Bosnia and Herzegovina, dead Serbs are worthless (so, had Croats started killing Serbs first - that's not important, because dead Serbs are worthless), dead Serbs are propaganda, everyone who speaks the truth that is not in accordance to official Croat-ustasha policy he is at least WWII war criminal, communist, or God forbid a Serb, the constitution is not important unless it speaks in favor of Ustashas, if constitution doesn't speak in favor of Ustashas , we Ustashas will say it is a void constitution, so on and on...blah blah blah.....

Just childish whining. Yeah "everyone else was worthless but the Croats", and not the Serbs who actually are the ones that attacked everyone else Croats respected the wishes of the majority of Yugoslav nations that wanted independence and nothing to do with Belgrade anymore, the Serbs did not. That makes them "special" and more worhy than the others in their eyes.

The constitution of a country that doesn't exist anymore isn't worth shit, it's that simple. Keep on whining that everyone else should have followed their own (Yugoslav) constitution even if they all disagreed with it (thus the purpose of the constitution is lost), just because it favored only the Serb wishes and no one else's.

So I guess we can conclude that you think that Serbs running away from Croatia on their own orders is a worse "crime" than Mladic and Karadzic's responsibility for thousands of civilian deaths and executions? Not that anyone doubted it in the first place, but it's nice that you actually come forward with this and show your true colors and "Serbs are special and more worth than anyone else" moral bankrupcy. God forbid that a Serb have to leave his home even if Serbs order it, but Serbs killing thousands of people and destroying dozens of cities and villages, and their leaders threatening to kill all muslims in Bosnia, that doesn't matter, those people are not Serbs so who cares right?

And remember, you can never use the word Ustasha too many times, if you say it enough times it might become true, at least that's what the Serb nationalist line of thinking is concerning everything that happened to them in the war. Make shit up and repeat it as much as possible.

Remember kids: there is what everyone else says, and then there is what the Serbs say, and the later is always 100% true and everything everyone else says are lies and conspiracies

[roxunreal]

FRS, on what grounds do you support lands with "Serbs across the border" to merge with and become Serbia, yet not support Kosovo from becoming Albania?

[Far-Right Sage]

Bosnia-Herzegovina was not a real, viable, or legitimate independent nation-state before the disastrous NATO incursion into the Balkans. The chipping away of as much as this ill-gotten land and unity with the Serbian motherland is, understanding the context, of course something I support.

The Kosovo situation is entirely different. Kosovo is Serbia, it has historically been part of the Serbian Empire and Serbia of the modern era (the Kingdom of Serbia, the Serbian-led Kingdom of Yugoslavia, etc.), and the Albanians are usurpers with an undeserved sense of self-importance and Illyrian mythos. Getting these people out of Kosovo and the rest of Serbia proper is priority number one for any government in Belgrade which isn't effectively functioning as a collaborator of NATO and Brussels.

[Independent_Srpska]

Just childish whining. Yeah "everyone else was worthless but the Croats", and not the Serbs who actually are the ones that attacked everyone else Croats respected the wishes of the majority of Yugoslav nations that wanted independence and nothing to do with Belgrade anymore, the Serbs did not. That makes them "special" and more worhy than the others in their eyes.

The constitution of a country that doesn't exist anymore isn't worth shit, it's that simple. Keep on whining that everyone else should have followed their own (Yugoslav) constitution even if they all disagreed with it (thus the purpose of the constitution is lost), just because it favored only the Serb wishes and no one else's.

So I guess we can conclude that you think that Serbs running away from Croatia on their own orders is a worse "crime" than Mladic and Karadzic's responsibility for thousands of civilian deaths and executions? Not that anyone doubted it in the first place, but it's nice that you actually come forward with this and show your true colors and "Serbs are special and more worth than anyone else" moral bankrupcy. God forbid that a Serb have to leave his home even if Serbs order it, but Serbs killing thousands of people and destroying dozens of cities and villages, and their leaders threatening to kill all muslims in Bosnia, that doesn't matter, those people are not Serbs so who cares right?

And remember, you can never use the word Ustasha too many times, if you say it enough times it might become true, at least that's what the Serb nationalist line of thinking is concerning everything that happened to them in the war. Make shit up and repeat it as much as possible.

Remember kids: there is what everyone else says, and then there is what the Serbs say, and the later is always 100% true and everything everyone else says are lies and conspiracies

Hey, Mouse, what's wrong with you - everything was void - what Croatia are you talking about? Croatia existed only within Yugoslavia - If Yugoslavia was void - Croatia was void , too...

We can only speak about savage Croat-ustasha tribes who attacked Serbs out of blue, because, greedy as they are, they wanted Serb property.
That's the reason why Croats and Muslims started to massacre Serbs in what-is-today-croatia and in what-is-today-BH.

[Independent_Srpska]

Bosnia-Herzegovina was not a real, viable, or legitimate independent nation-state before the disastrous NATO incursion into the Balkans. The chipping away of as much as this ill-gotten land and unity with the Serbian motherland is, understanding the context, of course something I support.

Absolutely. Serbs land that temporary occupies puppet state of what-is-today Croatia included

[roxunreal]

Hey, Mouse, what's wrong with you - everything was void - what Croatia are you talking about? Croatia existed only within Yugoslavia - If Yugoslavia was void - Croatia was void , too...

We can only speak about savage Croat-ustasha tribes who attacked Serbs out of blue, because, greedy as they are, they wanted Serb property.
That's the reason why Croats and Muslims started to massacre Serbs in what-is-today-croatia and in what-is-today-BH.

This is beyond childish, but not at all unexpected as you always turn to trolling after your genocide and war crimes denial myths are busted and your nation's guilt and expansionist tensions exposed for what they are.

Obviously the Yugoslav republics decided that they don't exist only within Yugoslavia, but I understand that it's hard for you to accept

Keep dreaming that the fictional "Republic of Serb Krajina" in Croatia has any kind of Serb political history at all before Serb extremists made it up on the eve of Yugoslavia's breakup to try and justify a Greater Serbia. It was part of Croatian territory numerous times since at least the 8th century. It was part of Serbia never, except on maps made by pro-greater Serbia "historians"

[Maas]

Both are illegitimate criminal syndicates which should see their headquarters razed and bulldozed into ash.

yeah... must be a drag when a white supremacist sees his dreams being shattered by predominantly his own "master" race.

[Far-Right Sage]

You are profoundly ignorant on the subject of my politics, Maas. Do not presume to know what you clearly do not.

I am not a "supremacist" of any sort.

[Maas]

It's all the same extreme right wing crap. You only use pretty words to make it seem it is different or got at least more intelligent thoughts behind it. But its the same message alright with your "getting these people out of Kosovo and the rest of Serbia proper is priority number one"... Ethnic cleansing and racial hatered for the win, as usual.