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By El Cid
#1296
For an anti-commie he was pretty socialist there :p
I agree with him though.
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By Adrien
#1317
I agree with him too.

PS: too bad he changed his glasses. ;)
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By KurtFF8
#1340
El Cid wrote:For an anti-commie he was pretty socialist there :p
I agree with him though.


I know this is kinda off topic but how was he so anti-communist? by giving people free speach,etc.?
By El Cid
#1345
Gah, he just brought the Soviet Empire to fall. Not that it was communist anyway.
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By KurtFF8
#1433
El Cid wrote:Gah, he just brought the Soviet Empire to fall. Not that it was communist anyway.


um.... but what did he do that was so anti-communist?
By Russian
#1445
USSR, being Stalin's creation, could only work under a dictator. Gorbachev was not a dictator he wasn't even a strong leader. So obviously the whole thing collapsed... for better or for worse

Gorbochev’s mistake was his attempt to bring two different things together- communism and democracy.
By Proctor
#1471
El Cid wrote:Gah, he just brought the Soviet Empire to fall.
I would like to clear something up right here and now. THE SOVIET UNION WAS NOT AN EMPIRE!!

Thankyou.
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By Yeddi
#1490
i'd have to disagree proctor, the USSR was an empire... not evil ;) but an empire, it had countries under its control, vassel states
By El Cid
#1504
Proctor wrote:I would like to clear something up right here and now. THE SOVIET UNION WAS NOT AN EMPIRE!!

Thankyou.

Ok then state. :p
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By KurtFF8
#1521
it was a Union,not an empire...Soviet Union...Soviet Empire..which sounds better? Union of corse (well if your a REAL communist u would go with union! lol)
By Linyeika
#1632
By the way,

COMMUNISM = DEMOCRACY!!!

God, I hate when people don't know what they are talking about.
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By Georgi Zhukov
#1691
Yeah, I do agree with Gorby, to get back to topic. There doesn't need to be a war to combat terrorism, which was the original Bush goal in all this. I'm not a damn bit surprised that the war is being fueled by out of control consumption and everything. Everything bigger, better, more powerful in America-downside is obvious in that it takes more resources to fuel such an economy, and being out of them everywhere else, Bush turns to small, relatively lightly armed countries that are already virtually blacklisted in the world.

Just screw them over, rape them of all worth, and leave them to suffer. Classic American 'diplomacy' in action.
By scorchedCCCP
#1738
Just wondering... how did STALIN create the USSR? Wasn't it the Bolshevik Party under Lenin? I do think so.

Anyways, Gorby is absolutely right here... I wonder what he does as a job right now?
By Spetzjoe
#1791
The USSR was the idea of Stalin and was created in 1922.
By The Red Goblin
#2924
I've never understood the animosity toward Gorby that was evidenced on the old web-site. If you have read his book "Perestroika", you will understand his goal was to bring the USSR back to its ideals of Marxism-Leninism. rather than Stalinism-Brezhnevism.

He DID NOT cause the fall of the USSR. A new Union agreement betwen the constituent Republics was to be signed on August 20, 1991. The evening before the "hard-liners" made their half-a$$ atempt at seizure of power. THIS event lead to the fall of the USSR, not Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev himself, or his policies.
By Proctor
#3559
KurtFF8 wrote:it was a Union,not an empire...Soviet Union...Soviet Empire..which sounds better? Union of corse (well if your a REAL communist u would go with union! lol)
What? I'm not a communist.
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By KurtFF8
#3612
Proctor wrote:
KurtFF8 wrote:it was a Union,not an empire...Soviet Union...Soviet Empire..which sounds better? Union of corse (well if your a REAL communist u would go with union! lol)
What? I'm not a communist.


it dosent matter, because i was just joking in the fist place lol

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