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In events somewhat similar to what's happening in the US right now, a minority of South Koreans have been claiming that a conspiracy of eight female billionaires called the "eight goddesses" have been running the South Korean government for some time. Recent leaks revealed that at least one billionaire has been keeping shocking details and control over the current South Korean President, whose approval rating has dropped to sub-30%: https://archive.is/P9Vt1
President Park Geun Hye's brief apology Tuesday afternoon that lasted all of 1 1/2 minutes was the final blow for those who had been holding out hope that what they had seen in the news was not true.

Watching Park on television admit to seeking Choi Soon Sil's assistance made stomachs churn. She said that she consulted with Choi, who had helped her during difficult times, so as to be "thorough" and out of "pureness of heart."

(Choi is an old friend of Park, according to The Korea Herald. She is also the daughter of Park's late mentor Choi Tae Min and the ex-wife of her former secretary Jeong Yoon Hoe. The latest revelations suggest that Choi had received regular reports on Park's schedule, speeches, personnel arrangements and even some classified information, such as secret inter-Korea military meetings. Park on Tuesday admitted to having sought Choi's opinions on her speeches and apologised. The scandal swirling around what critics call the "shadow president" has sent Park's approval ratings plunging and even triggered calls for impeachment by her most ardent foes. )

Impeachment is apparently being openly discussed. People in South Korea are wondering who is really calling the shots and even Pyongyang has commented on it. Minds have been blown.

Personally, it reminds me of Hillary's leaked emails about the Owl of Minerva rule etc. Is this all part of the "power consolidation exercise" mentioned by Wikileaks, that is, do they want us to find out just to see what we will do? Or are they really losing control?
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Park’s connection to Choi stretches back decades. She is the daughter of the fifth wife of Choi Tae-min, a policeman turned Buddhist monk turned Christian pastor who was the mentor of Park’s father, the dictator Park Chung-hee. Choi Tae-min had set up a religious group called Yongsaeng-gyo, or “Eternal Life Church,” and declared himself a Maitreya, or a “Future Buddha.” He remained a close friend of Park Chung-hee until his death by assassination in 1979. The man who shot him, Kim Jae-gyu, the head of the Korean Central Intelligence Unit, later claimed that one of his motives for the killing was Park’s inability to rid himself of Choi’s influence.


This mystery woman is a close friend of the Park family and her father was a cult figure who was advising Park Chung-hee until his death by assassination. Kim Jae-gyu was Korea's Grigori Rasputin who was a trusted friend of the family of Nicholas II. President Park could officially appoint her as her political adviser to avoid the controversy about outside influence.
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ThirdTerm wrote:This mystery woman is a close friend of the Park family and her father was a cult figure who was advising Park Chung-hee until his death by assassination. Kim Jae-gyu was Korea's Grigori Rasputin who was a trusted friend of the family of Nicholas II. President Park could officially appoint her as her political adviser to avoid the controversy about outside influence.

It seems to be a little late for that. An "advisor" doesn't keep track of your schedule and some of the other things she's been doing. It appear that the South Korean President has literally been used as a puppet.
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Didn't see the other thread. Combine?

For months there has been a wacky conspiracy theory floating around on south korean internet boards and 4chan about a secret shadow government comprised of 8 religious cultist women calling themselves 'the 8 heavenly fairies' that control south korea from behind the scenes....

...turns out it was all true...it's 2016 after all. The year of happenings. :excited: The head of this cult is Choi Soon-sil , who is currently hiding out in Europe, some think in Germany. She has known the current SK president for years, and has been puppeting her from the start. The entire SK leadership has been implicated and they are facing serious consequences.

Behind-the-scenes power broker Choi Sun-sil received and reviewed 30 cm-thick “Presidential report packets” from the Blue House on a nearly daily basis until as recently as this spring, a witness recently claimed.

Choi is also reported to have used the materials to hold behind-the-scenes meetings to discuss all aspects of governance. The claims were made consistently over the course of four interviews - totaling 16 hours in length - conducted with the Hankyoreh from Sep. 7-25 by former Mir Foundation secretary-general and close Choi associate Lee Sung-han.

“Ms. Choi typically met with experts from different areas at her office in Nonhyeon [a neighborhood in Seoul] to discuss the President’s upcoming schedule and national policy issues,” Lee said in the interview.

“She had a number of these kinds of meetings for different topics - it was a kind of advisory meeting for the President,” he added.

On the participants in the meetings, Lee said, “It ranged from as few as two people to as many as five. I attended a few times.”

“The people coming to the meetings changed a bit depending on what kind of meeting it was, but Cha Eun-taek was almost always there, and Ko Young-tae attended often,” he added. Cha is a former advertising director who has become known as “crown prince of the cultural community” since the Park Geun-hye administration took office. Ko, a close confidant of Choi‘s, drew notice when Park was seen carrying a purse he had made.

Lee went on to say Choi always had a “Presidential report packet” measuring around 30 cm thick on her office desk. He also offered the name of the individual responsible for delivering them.

“The packets were usually all the things the Blue House Senior Secretaries had reported to the President. They were brought to the office nearly every evening by Jeong Ho-seong, director of the Blue House Office of the Private Secretary to the President,” he said. Jeong is one of the secretaries known as the “door knocker triumvirate.”

Lee also recalled that Choi “would toss us the materials at the meetings and have us reading them without any real explanation, giving us orders to ‘Do things this way’ or ‘Do things that way.’”

“We would listen to her and draft project plans, and they would be passed back to us later as Blue House documents without so much as a comma changed,” he added.

While explaining this, Lee showed a Hankyoreh reporter a comparison of documents stored as image files on his iPhone, which were published as official Blue House documents after he wrote them. He also showed telephone numbers saved on the device for around 20 Blue House secretaries and senior secretaries, which the Hankyoreh later confirmed to be correct.

Regarding the topics discussed at the meetings, Lee said, “About 10% were related to the Mir and K-Sports Foundations, while the other 90% mostly had to do with government policies like the shutdown of the Kaesong Industrial Complex, which Choi Sun-sil referred to as ’issues of interest to President Park Geun-hye.‘”

“Appointment issues were also discussed at the meetings, and decisions were made on who to make or not make a Cabinet minister,” he added.

“It’s a real break with common perceptions to say this, but it’s actually a system where Choi tells the President to do things this way or that way. There aren’t any issues where the President can decide on her own,” Lee said. “It’s basically only possible once Choi has been asked about and approves everything. Even the Blue House ‘door knocker triumvirate’ are basically all just Choi’s messengers.”

While Lee‘s account seems to defy common sense, the Hankyoreh decided to report it because it is largely consistent with what the newspaper has found over the past two months of reporting, as well as an Oct. 24 segment on the JTBC network claiming Choi had read and revised Park’s speeches in advance.

http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_ ... 67405.html
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It's good that the South Korean people have a new way to remove their president, instead of having to resort to violence, as what had happened to this president's father.
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Hong Wu wrote:In events somewhat similar to what's happening in the US right now, a minority of South Koreans have been claiming that a conspiracy of eight female billionaires called the "eight goddesses" have been running the South Korean government for some time. Recent leaks revealed that at least one billionaire has been keeping shocking details and control over the current South Korean President, whose approval rating has dropped to sub-30%: https://archive.is/P9Vt1

Impeachment is apparently being openly discussed. People in South Korea are wondering who is really calling the shots and even Pyongyang has commented on it. Minds have been blown.

Personally, it reminds me of Hillary's leaked emails about the Owl of Minerva rule etc. Is this all part of the "power consolidation exercise" mentioned by Wikileaks, that is, do they want us to find out just to see what we will do? Or are they really losing control?


Where can I see Pyongyang's comment?
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Why eight individuals? And why all women? Is there a list of all those suspected to be in the group?

I also imagine there can't be very many female billionaires in the country, so if this is all true, it shouldn't be too hard to discover the names of these individuals.
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Blondie wrote:Why eight individuals? And why all women? Is there a list of all those suspected to be in the group?

I also imagine there can't be very many female billionaires in the country, so if this is all true, it shouldn't be too hard to discover the names of these individuals.

I don't know about there being eight or not, but the accused "shadow president" has returned from Germany to talk to investigators.
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On a side note...

Not all names appearing in the news are female. Ko Young-Tae is male, and he's rumoured to be a "toy-boy" of Choi:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/na ... 17091.html

There're even some allegations that Ko was the owner of the "smoking gun" tablet but he denied it:

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20161031000735
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This is from today. Protests show no sign of letting up with 850,000 protesting in Seoul. I was there just weeks before this happened and visited their Buddhist temple, it's very nice.

Some people are still in denial that we are witnessing a major political shift on a global scale. And it's not a pro-establishment one.
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Dear Readers:

Worldwide our “Shaman Buster” members are watching the events of South Korea. Don’t worry my friends because this is no different than what goes on in other countries. When power goes un-checked, hopefully government has a way to stop such abuses. Women are getting a bad image by the actions of a few. We don’t like it.

This week such abuses are coming to a halt in Seoul where power became convoluted, twisted, and corrupt. The bad guys got caught or the followers of the eight fairies. They apologized and reached down into the driest part of their soul and say this will never happen again. To late!

Some groups want to extend absolution. Forget it-don’t do it.

With absolution, in their mind, and in the consensus mind of the group, they can then go forward, behave, and everyone feels good, solid, and whole again. But, the notion of where one begs for forgiveness, and bows for forgiveness, is not sustainable. Our women will not stand for this.

Not with women or the young people who push back and demand justice, and demand action for such corruption. The next thing you know there are 30,000 people in the streets of Seoul protesting that the system of acceptable forgiveness just does not work. The system needs to account for the bad behavior and corrupt thinking of the few.

The Choi clan gamed the system and figured out that what the gypsies did in Europe 500 years ago could be duplicated in Seoul. Under the guise of religion or fortune telling, they could extort money from the businessmen and politicians who were too worried about what their political ties might yield. Today, we watched the Park clan history roll out in front of our vision like a sweet drop of sunshine but then the storm clouds rolled in. The press is calling this the “Black Magic Woman”. The master manipulator with her eight fairies.

It is interesting because we sent our South Korea researchers to the streets to find the eight fairies but we were not looking for anyone dressed in white. Black is the appropriate color. We did not find the eight fairies on day #1. Day two was different and with a few surprises. We went to this supposed cult’s primary location: three different Christian churches where these cults supposedly started.

A side note; how is a new Christian church going to find members? First, a charismatic leader, then a twist on the sermons, or messaging which serves those looking to get ahead. Third, the money pours in, and the next thing you know there is a shamanistic context to the story line.

Power is at play and promises of achieving prosperity achievable with the right sermon or story. The grand seduction of getting ahead over others could be a magic spell.

So, we know you want to know and the answer is yes. We found one member of the eight fairies and they are real, and selling their service, and promise to take anyone out of the way who gets in the way of their customers. All with promises of magic, ill-will, manipulation, slander, and downright nasty deeds.

If the “black magic woman” and her fairies can manipulate the top money people at the Federation of Korean Industries imagine what they can do for smaller companies. What do you suppose those executives were promised for kicking in the money to the Blue K Company.

For thousands of years this has been explained as blackmail, sex, money, greed, and power. We would never suggest this happened but, why would companies provide money into a blind corporation?

So the contact at the church, not sure what her fairy number was, talked about her 8 fairies at work at a company called Naturalendo Tech Co, Ltd. The results of what happened to Naturalendo are true and in the public domain from 2015. The information made sense to us so we printed this story.

We do not know this company but read the story in the papers. Apparently a group of the eight fairies met with these company executives in 2013, at the fairy’s church, to provide them the opportunity to prosper via stock benefits when the company would go public. The initial recruitment tactics which supposedly happened made our editorial team blush. Very racy, wild, events over the course of a weekend.

The hook was set, the executives crossed to the dark side, this company went public, investors came out of nowhere, and these executives and their President made millions along with the benefactors of the fairies. Sex, money and power in play. But then greed surfaced raised it’s seductive, ugly head.

Apparently, things went bad a year later. The story goes that the executives got greedy and crossed the fairies. They stopped giving them money, and the fairies threatened bad events and spells on these same executives. Keep in mind we were told these mudang came across very scary. Nothing happened for 4 months but then, mysteriously, the Korean FDA showed up at the Naturalendo manufacturing plant and found extensive poisonous products in Naturalendo products. They were caught cheating the system for economic gain. How did the KFDA find out? A tip, a bribe to one of the factory workers? Was it magic or bribery.

Supposedly Naturalendo refused to cooperate with their customers in South Korea who bought the bad ingredient. Not a good way to make friends. Last year the company almost went out of business because of their issues linked with stock manipulation, arson, and falsifying production. A terrible mess. We found a blog site that called this company one of the worst cheaters in the nutritional space, globally.

Did the fairies curse them? Our source told us some of the executives who participated are still at the company working with the mudang and expanding their cheating ways. The other executives left, in shame of course, but with millions in their pockets vs the consumers and investors who lost everything.

The notion of the fairies as psychic merchants might be true, but also, they seemingly have become the merchants of blackmail, sex, money, greed, and power. To get to some of the hot spots of power in South Korean Commerce and Politics seems relatively easy today. We think this will change.

From the beginning, we talked about culture, cults, business, religion and power. They all seem synonymous with each other. The young people are the future and they drive change. For sure religion is a great thing but when it becomes tainted bad things happen. The eight fairies and their mudang will survive this one but if the halls of power tighten up their body politic and extend a vision for integrity, fair play, and honor the young people have the chance to thrive and expand. Then maybe the fairies end up on side streets reading tarot cards and bones for 10 yuan.

Our prayers are for the people and rights for women.

Remington Shaw

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