[Rancid]

Code: Select allcountry = GetCountry("Myanmar")
if(!country.hasOil())
{
    // Do nothing
    system.out.println("Don't give a shit.")
}

[garrulousunlawful]

Its already been said a few times here, but Myanmar isn't geopolitically relevant. There is almost no way this could cause problems in the region, and it certainly won't cause problems in the West. Further I don't think Western political leadership want to spoil their opening to Myanmar, this is still being thought of as a major accomplishment in some circles. This is why we only hear the positives of anything, all the media discusses are the marginal improvements, and not the number of seats in the legislature that are still reserved for military officers, or anything else that could cast the country in a negative light. Politicians want to protect this as part of their legacy and major companies are likely looking forward to resource deals and cheap labor.

nothing in the world as refreshing as honesty,

@fuser you are right I guess at a total wage of 2,50€ per day and a take away meal costing 3€, everybody there has 4K 3D Samsung TV with sorround sound

[fuser]

First I never deleted any of my post, so stop lying. Then, yeah thank you for showing your ignorance once again, we don't have definite data on TV penetration inside Myanmar but most of them do own TV. At similar level of economical development, South Asia stands with more than 60% households owning a TV, then your comparison of wages in Myanmar to cost of food (selective) in west is beyond ridiculous. So according to you everyone goes hungry in Myanmar?

Next time, try harder when you pretend to give a shit about Myanmar or any other country.

[Thompson_NCL]

Police the world and you're called an imperialist. Don't police it and you're told you don't care. Meh.

[anarchist23]

The killing of Rohingya continues. One thousand Rohingya were killed in Myanmar in one day on 12th July 2012 and the mainstream media is mainly silent.

There are growing concerns that a genocide is occurring against the Rohingya in Myanmar. Research done by scholars in Yale Law School found empirical evidence that the Rohingya have historically suffered serious and persistent human right abuses, and these actions have increased in frequency in recent years. Since 2012, living conditions and human rights abuses have worsened with reports of beheadings, stabbings, killings, beatings, mass arrests and villages and neighbourhoods being burned to the ground, however, there remains a lack of justice and accountability by the Government of Myanmar, thus representing failure of state protection.

wiki

[warsmith17]

Another thought occurred to me regarding the situation, what can actually be done? Where is the leverage?

Economic contact with the West is only just beginning, therefore sanctions would have very little effect. Their largest trading partner is China which surely doesn't care, and they're followed by India and Japan. While India likely does care about the situation they have long held a dim view of interfering in another nation's affairs. Japan again likely does not care at all.

There is really nothing that can be taken away, except for future opportunities, little could be done to hurt them today. This leaves military force and this is non-starter. I doubt any country has the appetite to see its own soldiers killed over a small minority in a country most couldn't place on a map.

[fuser]

India used to be hostile but has recently became very cozy with Myanmar in an effort to counter Chinese influence plus Myanmar let's Indian troops to wage counter insurgency operations inside Myanmar against India's north eastern rebels who generally seek refuge in porous Indo-Myanmar border. If anything Myanmar's military is good at keeping her neighbors happy except for Bangladesh.

As per doing something, there can't be any "external" solution.

[warsmith17]

India used to be hostile but has recently became very cozy with Myanmar in an effort to counter Chinese influence plus Myanmar let's Indian troops to wage counter insurgency operations inside Myanmar against India's north eastern rebels who generally seek refuge in porous Indo-Myanmar border. If anything Myanmar's military is good at keeping her neighbors happy except for Bangladesh.

As per doing something, there can't be any "external" solution.

Interesting, I wasn't aware that India was actually attempting to counter Chinese influence anywhere. The Indian-Chinese relationship will likely be one of the most vital of this century. Are these ethnic or political rebels? I'm pretty much just aware of the Naxalites, the groups in J&K, and I've heard of Nagas and a couple of other groups rebelling.

[fuser]

Well, of course both countries are trying to undermine each other. For example India has military treaties with Vietnam aimed against China while not being an outright alliance. Recently India is also selling Brahmos to Vietnam and sending technicians there.

Yes, the north-eastern rebels include Nagas amongst other, they are mostly ethnic/tribalistic in nature but have been many things historically from religious fanatic movement "Nagaland for Christ" to socialist movements particularly in Tripura (An Indian state) where currently communist party is in power.

[Balancer]

Genocide in Myanmar and no one cares because the Rohingya are Muslims.

I think, more and more simply. We watch the number of the victims:

2012: Deaths June: 88, October: at least 80 // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Rakhine_State_riots
2013: Deaths 50
2014: Two men — one Buddhist and one Muslim — were killed.

Now we compare:

"On these, collected American Council for the international relations (CFR), 10 340 people have died violent death during the period from November, 2013 to November, 2014 of hands of Boko Haram. During the same period approximately in the same number of civilians, 10 733, have been cruelly killed in Iraq, according to the UN."

"As the death toll from the Libyan uprising reached an estimated 20,000 people" // http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... dshed.html

"Bombings of Yugoslavia by forces of NATO have begun on March 24 and have ended on June 10, 1999. Under blow have appeared both military facilities, and civil infrastructure. According to the authorities of SRYu, during bombings total number of the died civilians has made over 1 700 people, including nearly 400 children, about 10 thousand have been seriously wounded. Without message, according to the UN, 821 persons, the majority of which — Serbians, were gone."

"The report from the Syrian Center for Policy Research said that at least 470,000 Syrians had died as a result of the war" // http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/world ... .html?_r=0

"Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 and over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time.[1] A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion.[2] Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants." // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualtie ... e_Iraq_War

Still surprises you what people pay attention to tens and hundreds of the dead a few years ago a little?

[fuser]

If only numbers mattered, we had be hearing about Congo day and night.

[Decky]

The Belgians were only trying the help them Fuser but people can sometimes be so ungrateful. Look at the sepoys. It is like people don't want peace, order, freedom and modernity?

[Rancid]

Police the world and you're called an imperialist. Don't police it and you're told you don't care. Meh.

Very true.

[garrulousunlawful]

First I never deleted any of my post, so stop lying. Then, yeah thank you for showing your ignorance once again, we don't have definite data on TV penetration inside Myanmar but most of them do own TV. At similar level of economical development, South Asia stands with more than 60% households owning a TV, then your comparison of wages in Myanmar to cost of food (selective) in west is beyond ridiculous. So according to you everyone goes hungry in Myanmar?

Next time, try harder when you pretend to give a shit about Myanmar or any other country.

basically you got nothing to say and you're saying it too loud, I could shout abuse at you too, but hey I got class I aint wanna be like you. Now go see who is ignorant here,
This one shows you the cost of living there
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/c ... ry=Myanmar

this the earnings
https://business-humanrights.org/en/mya ... ntl-brands

now go get a fucking life

[Albert]

I just dont care @garrulousunlawful, honestly I just dont care. Third world has an over population problem anyways. I dont care.

Just to show you how little I care, I still. Have not bothered to read the OP article.

I just dont feel like it. Im completely clueless and uniformed about what is happening still. Why you might ask? Because I just don give a fffffffukk.

[Zagadka]

There are tons of war we pay no attention to. Unfortunately, we end up with "we should not police the world" then proceed to ignore the suffering. I'm not saying that policing the world is something we should (or could) do, especially on our own, but the way we discard events happening around the world is deplorable. We don't even acknowledge the fighting going on around the Arabian peninsula.

[Hong Wu]

How many people have been killed? The article doesn't appear to mention this. If paying for food and buses to take people to protests and riots is genocide, Soros and the DNC have committed genocide too.

Wow, that was so easy to get to that I can't resist typing it... Soros and the DNC are committing WHITE GENOCIDE!

[fuser]

@garrulousunlawful

Yes Garry, everyone in Myanmar eats in restaurants everytime and taking your data at face value, every worker in Myanmar goes hungry everytime because feelings, amirite?

Then, found it : TV household penetration touched 5.8 million homes, or 55% in Myanmar. Plus anyone who knows anything (It doesn't include people with faux outrage like you) about third world knows perfectly well that TV can be a very community thing i.e. a single TV in a village can provide entertainment to entire village. But I am guessing rather than manning up to the stupid mistake you made, more faux outrage is on its way.

"Ah look at these third worlders, they don't even know what TV is, awww."

[Atlantis]

That Aung San Suu Kyi can't always be the saint we would like her to be and hat Muslims can be victims too seems a bit too hard to accept for most of our contemporaries.

Damn, another illusion gone down the drain

[anarchist23]

If you have read the OP it says that there is systematic oppression of the Royhinga and that there is little publicity at the moment.

"strong evidence" of a genocide coordinated by the Myanmar government against the Rohingya people, according to an assessment by Yale University Law School.

The Myanmar army launched attacks on Rohingya Muslim villages over the weekend
[b]The Myanmar army says it shot dead at least 25 people in Rohingya Muslim villages in restive Rakhine state on Sunda.
Images and videos on social media showed women and children were among those killed.
Hundreds of villagers were forced to flee their homes over the weekend.
The Rohingya population has been displaced ever since ethnic tension escalated in Myanmar

BBC

Horrifying footage has emerged of police officers standing by while Burmese Buddhist rioters set fire to a Muslim man.
The video was largely filmed by police in the city of Meiktila during intense clashes between a gang of Buddhists known as the '969 squad' and Muslims last month which left 43 people dead.

Daily Mail