foxdemon wrote:That is an interesting position. So this would apply to other minorities in the UK such as Pakistanis?
foxdemon wrote:So they would be easier to get along with?
More than likely. I think small European countries are generally very amicable and easy to get along with.
foxdemon wrote:China actually has lots of ethnic groups. The southern Chinese aren’t quite the same as the northern Chinese. Furthermore there was a strong influence from British culture in HK which made that community unique. They certainly didn’t want to go back to rule from Beijing.
I never said China didn't have a lot of ethnic groups. The people in Hong Kong do not have a distinct ethnicity. Rule by the English was not enough to develop a distinct ethnic identity. And I find it very strange why someone from Hong Kong would not consider themselves Chinese. It simply makes no logical sense.
foxdemon wrote:You happily discard them when it is no longer useful. But isn’t that a Colonial attitude?
The problem is that whatever the UK does in this instance will be regarded as colonial in some way, shape or form. In any case, the people of Hong Kong can still pursue liberalism in a unified China.
foxdemon wrote:Only because the Americans and allies shape a world order that allows Japan to do that. Japan is changing their foriegn policy to play a more assertive role. For example stationing troops in Africa with an eye to competing with Chinese influence in that continent. This reflects a changing balance of global power.
Is it because of changing global imperatives or is it because the Japanese government and a significant portion of public opinion is right wing?
And if Japan can exist in a system where another great power guarantees the security of energy and other interests in the Middle East, why can the UK not do the same? And maybe that power will not even be an Anglo-Saxon power.
foxdemon wrote:The UK can’t emulate Japan’s foreign policy if the last half century as the circumstances aren’t the same. If the UK sits back, Uncle Sam has no reason to protect it the way they have been obligated to do for Japan.
Why does the UK need American protection?
foxdemon wrote:There are no empires today (except perhaps the EU). But most countries are looking at a global presence. If the UK gave up on that, it would become isolated and impoverished.
Except the UK's foreign policies are actually making it less wealthy than it could be. A country does not need to be a global military and strategic power to be a major economic power.
We are condemned to live.