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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pol ... 41e8354669

Interesting numbers here:

Trump is treated as more in touch than both Republicans or Democrats.
Independents view Democrats as the most out of touch.
Democrats and Clinton Voters view themselves as more out of touch than Republicans and Trump voters view themselves.
Both Republicans and Democrats view each other equally out of touch.
Third Party voters view Democrats as the least out of touch.
Republicans view both parties as equally divided. Democrats view themselves as mostly united while Republicans as mostly divided.

What do you guys think of this?
#14800181
Other than a societal parasite or a white collar government union worker or the rich liberal elite such as movie stars, music stars, trial lawyers, and some others...the Democratic Party offers no benefit to most Americans. Yes the Democratic Party clearly is out of touch with what America needs in the year 2017 and moving forward.
#14800182
Dubayoo wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/04/23/two-thirds-of-americans-think-that-the-democratic-party-is-out-of-touch-with-the-country/?utm_term=.4541e8354669

Interesting numbers here:

Trump is treated as more in touch than both Republicans or Democrats.
Independents view Democrats as the most out of touch.
Democrats and Clinton Voters view themselves as more out of touch than Republicans and Trump voters view themselves.
Both Republicans and Democrats view each other equally out of touch.
Third Party voters view Democrats as the least out of touch.
Republicans view both parties as equally divided. Democrats view themselves as mostly united while Republicans as mostly divided.

What do you guys think of this?


As with the US so too with the UK & Europe.

Politicians live & work within their own ideological bubble far away from reality.

Until some seismic shift of events causes them to shift from that paradigm, they will happily stay on their little 'gravy train' & ignore those who elected them.

We get the governments we deserve & boy are they CRAP!
#14800198
Beren wrote:Democrats must be out of touch completely if they could nominate someone who could lost to Trump although she got almost 3 million more popular votes than he did! :lol:


Yes...but...take away the popular vote margins in California and New York, and Trump wins the popular vote total as well. Which is exactly why our wise Founding Fathers designed the electoral college, so that our country's president would not always be decided by one or two big states.
#14800201
stephen50right wrote:Yes...but...take away the popular vote margins in California and New York, and Trump wins the popular vote total as well. Which is exactly why our wise Founding Fathers designed the electoral college, so that our country's president would not always be decided by one or two big states.

Sure, so your president is rather decided by rural idiots who happen to dwell sparsely.
#14800207
Beren wrote:Sure, so your president is rather decided by rural idiots who happen to dwell sparsely.


Other way around. Hillary's supporters largely come from the major urban areas of each region and state. On a detailed electoral map it resembles a scattering of islands. The rest is largely red.
#14800209
Beren wrote:Sure, so your president is rather decided by rural idiots who happen to dwell sparsely.


Yes, your socialist hero Crooked Hillary called us deplorables. Which helped motivate us to beat her. Go ahead, keep motivating us more with the silly name calling, and we shall beat your side even worse next time.
#14800222
stephen50right wrote:Yes, your socialist hero Crooked Hillary called us deplorables. Which helped motivate us to beat her. Go ahead, keep motivating us more with the silly name calling, and we shall beat your side even worse next time.

If this happens again you go bankrupt again like you did the last time when rural idiots decided the fate of the country.

Bulaba Jones wrote:Other way around. Hillary's supporters largely come from the major urban areas of each region and state. On a detailed electoral map it resembles a scattering of islands. The rest is largely red.

Sure, that's the point that densely populated areas, such as cities which seem like separate dots on the map, tend to support the Democrats, while sparsely populated areas, large swaths on the map, don't.
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Beren wrote:If this happens again you go bankrupt again like you did the last time when rural idiots decided the fate of the country.


Sure, that's the point that densely populated areas, such as cities which seem like separate dots on the map, tend to support the Democrats, while sparsely populated areas, large swaths on the map, don't.


Your marxist boy Obama added 10 trillion dollars to the debt. Shame on your side for doing this to future generations of our young people, who will likely begin voting Republican in droves in order to help achieve responsible government.

The Democratic Party, among other negative things, truly is the party of irresponsibility.
#14800227
Beren wrote:Sure, that's the point that densely populated areas, such as cities which seem like separate dots on the map, tend to support the Democrats, while sparsely populated areas, large swaths on the map, don't.


Sort of: it's more a definitive pattern in the last two decades that many of the biggest cities vote Democrat, but there are densely populated areas throughout the South and between the Mississippi and New England which tend to vote Republican. Otherwise yes, on a map you'd conclude it's simply a matter of cities vs countryside, but that of course doesn't take into account urban and suburban areas which don't vote Democrat. That's part of the reason, beyond ideological/communicative reasons why Trump won: he targeted people in suburban/urban areas which included Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, among other states. The biggest cities in those states tend to vote Democrat, but all of those states, including others, have very dense population areas which aren't Democrats or tend to vote either way.

stephen50right wrote:Your marxist boy Obama added 10 trillion dollars to the debt. Shame on your side for doing this to future generations of our young people, who will likely begin voting Republican in droves in order to help achieve responsible government.

The Democratic Party, among other negative things, truly is the party of irresponsibility.


Beren is from Hungary and lives in Europe.
#14800229
Bulaba Jones wrote:Sort of: it's more a definitive pattern in the last two decades that many of the biggest cities vote Democrat, but there are densely populated areas throughout the South and between the Mississippi and New England which tend to vote Republican. Otherwise yes, on a map you'd conclude it's simply a matter of cities vs countryside, but that of course doesn't take into account urban and suburban areas which don't vote Democrat. That's part of the reason, beyond ideological/communicative reasons why Trump won: he targeted people in suburban/urban areas which included Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, among other states. The biggest cities in those states tend to vote Democrat, but all of those states, including others, have very dense population areas which aren't Democrats or tend to vote either way.


The inner cities with their Democratic Party voters...yea...Detroit is a "great" example of what decades of Democratic Party dictator type rule does to an area...devastation...and we all know it.
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How exactly does the Democratic Party rule cities in a dictatorial way, @stephen50right? You don't actually believe the Democratic Party's primary electorate are the inner cities... or do you? :eh:
#14800251
Dubayoo wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/04/23/two-thirds-of-americans-think-that-the-democratic-party-is-out-of-touch-with-the-country/?utm_term=.4541e8354669

Interesting numbers here:

Trump is treated as more in touch than both Republicans or Democrats.
Independents view Democrats as the most out of touch.
Democrats and Clinton Voters view themselves as more out of touch than Republicans and Trump voters view themselves.
Both Republicans and Democrats view each other equally out of touch.
Third Party voters view Democrats as the least out of touch.
Republicans view both parties as equally divided. Democrats view themselves as mostly united while Republicans as mostly divided.

What do you guys think of this?


Damnnn, Americans need to spend less time sunbathing. They fried a lot of brain cells. I am quite certain that the majority of people in the polls were white and high school grads who probably do not watch the news much, probably too busy with little league games or shopping. :lol:

The results would be different if they polled more minorities. I think blacks, Asians, Mexicans, and others would not be so supportive of Trump and the Republicans.
#14800259
I think both parties are out of touch with the rest of the USA.

The difference is that the Republcans did a better job in the last election of convincing Republican voters that they were actually in touch with the US electorate. But that is just show. They are not actually more in otuch with their voters.
#14800276
Obviously the Democrats are out of touch with the country. They are a horrid party.

stephen50right wrote:your socialist hero Crooked Hillary called us deplorables.


stephen50right wrote:Your marxist boy Obama


Of course, the deliberate destruction of the English language so that masters can whip up their puppets to believe that the words, "socialist," and, "marxist," don't mean anything doesn't help either.
#14800739
I think that the Dems are out of touch mainly because they are not liberal enough. Bernie Sanders was a nice turn of events and polling indicates he would have easily beat Trump by a wide margin (not the margins that Hillary vs. Trump was running).

These days most of Europe has a socialist party as a left party (the have a multi party system). In the US? Its not even a major third party. Americans are stuck in a cold war mentality and refuse to move left economically, inhibiting progress socially. In my opinion, Americans need to get into the 21st century ideologically and follow Europe's lead -- in the modern era they are a stunning example of how society should be run (although I wish France elected Mélenchon)

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